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Hi -I am considering buying one of Dreamfleets add on aircraft (like the Beech A36 - I have to wait for the CD though) and I am wonderingwhat happens if you buy the aircraft and then want to either upgrade your machine or get a new system?I ask because I went to the flightsim forum and saw something aboutlicensing and found the message confusing. It seemed to be saying thatyou could only run the addon on the machine onto which you first installed it (exactly as it was when you installed it). I have been wantingto ask this question on their forum but they seem to take quite a whileto allow you to ask a question.Does anyone have any experience with Dreamfleet/flight1 add on aircraft as far as portability issues are concerned? I won't be eagerto buy a product that I can't use on my next (or upgraded) system.

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You have nothing to worry about, Dave. Our install / licensing system, the "Flight One Software Wrapper" is one of the best / most-used of any one out there, and we are here to help if you have any problems with it.NOTICE: I am posting this at 11:38 PM New York time (according to my computer), so we do make an effort when it comes to support. We've been around some five years now, and have many folks who can attest to the validity of our / Flight One's installation program.I think I am going to go to bed now. ;-)Regards,http://www.dreamfleet2000.com/gfx/images/F...R_FORUM_LOU.jpg

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Lou,Dave does have a valid point though that you avoided answering.If we upgrade our machines to optimise FS9 buying your products (I have three of them) it means that we no longer own them because of the Flight-1 wrapper service that even I, by just simply changing my e-mail address, have fallen foul of.Please explain, as it does put us off of buying a download and waiting for the disk.Dave T. .........On the Devon Riviera and active 'FlightSim User's Group' member at http://www.flightsimgrpuk.free-online.co.uk/

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you didn't OWN the product anyway, you only own a license to use the product.If you provide information to prove that you're really you you can always get a new key for a new machine.About the only way that would run foul is if you get a new machine, a new credit card, and a new email address all at the same time and promptly loose access to all 3 and forget what they all were.

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And unlike some, the process is both automated, and instant. :)Allcott

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depending on the company you may still have to use some sort of activation system though.And indeed you still don't own the software, you own only the right to use it and the physical distribution media.

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>depending on the company you may still have to use some sort>of activation system though.>And indeed you still don't own the software, you own only the>right to use it and the physical distribution media.Honestly Jeroen, you DO seem to be very argumentive, I will not suffer depression from your comments.The number included within most disks is for the buyer only. We all know that. Therefore, the number is yours because you bought it AND the disk with the information that you payed for too.Reason why disks are more expensive than a download, wouldn't you say?Dave T. .........On the Devon Riviera and active 'FlightSim User's Group' member at http://www.flightsimgrpuk.free-online.co.uk/

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Sorry Dave T. Mr Wenting is dead right. This is standard business law and is fully recognised internationaly. Intellectual property is the property of the writer or programmer (or company in most cases).pj

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We use the F1 wrapper system for the same reasons pointed out by others here.The F1 system is as user friendly as it gets. You really have to ignore the rules, and disregard common sense to "run afoul" of the system. As Lou pointed out, all the companies we know who use the F1 system are available to help whenever possible.Users failure to understand and implement the system correctly does not constitute wrong doing by either F1 or vendors using F1 system :-)

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I have six or seven add-ons which use the Flight 1 wrapper, and I believe it to be the best in the industry - as are the DreamFleet products. A trip from Fly-Tampa's Tacoma - San Francisco - San Diego using the Dreamfleet 727 is an experience never to be forgotten. If you take care of your pc - do regular backups - burn all your docs, download purchase information and softwares onto a cd, don't change your email adress every five minutes - you'll likely never have a problem. Go for it. pj

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Dave - I have purchased many Flight1 products over the years and have never had a problem. I've been through five diferent machines, three e-mail addresses, and used several different credit cards and everything is fine. I'm still using all the products and I think you'll find the product support from Flight1 the best there is. Don't worry about it, everything will be OK.Doug

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Dave, I'm sorry, but you're simply not correct here.As Jeroen says, all of this software software is LICENSED. You do NOT own it, a copy of it or anything else. The license number is assigned to you, but if you breach the agreement, the authors/publishers/distributors still have the right to end the license agreement (although how they would do it sometimes is another matter) and you no longer have the legal right to use the software.The Flight1 wrapper allows you to both reactivate on a new PC when you upgrade (but the license is only for one installation - as it says in the agreement) and if you have a problem with it, you can request a new license automatically and easily. I've had to do that a couple of times out of tens of F1 wrapper products I use and have never had problems. It's by far the easiest of the "reasonably secure" systems I have had to deal with.DVD and CD versions of software are more expensive because they cost more to produce and distribute than a sofware download. They also often (but becoming more rare these days) come with a paper manual. That's it. You have no more right to use (or misuse) a CD distributed product than an electronically distributed product. As has also already been said, some companies require you to activate a CD product excactly the same as download products.Sometimes it causes problems (like I can't purchase a license for any Cloud9 products until I've solved the problems on this PC, because I am having to make major hardware changes to isolate it), but that's the way both the system and law works.Ian P.

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Thank you all for your replies. All I have to do now is wait for the CD (dial up is SO much fun!)I'm planning on getting a SATA drive and FSX and Windows Vista when they come out and I didn't want to not be able to use an add on that I bought now. I'm hoping an aircraft for 2004 will work with FSX - I think it probably will - if not then there is sure to be an upgrade available. I might not be able to get it with dial up though.Thats the problem I have now... I get to about 14meg of the download and I get cut off. oh well.thanks again for the responses.

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