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P3D v4 & the JS-41

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I am delighting in the realization that all my Orbx airports in Alaska and the PNW (which BTW are now working beautifully with the latest ObjectFlow) will be suitable destinations for the J-41 in addition to my beautiful DC-6.  When I want oil on my jeans, I can have that... and when I want something else, I can have that too.... I left Yakutat for Juneau this morning and wanted to share a few shots of the J-41 in Prepar3d v4.... BE SURE TO CLICK FOR 4K.

 

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Those here for a while will no doubt recall my penchant for words.. they shall indeed follow... but for the moment, I hope these suffice....

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1 hour ago, FishermanIvan said:

Damn.  Looks like I was wrong.  Where's the FMC?

That old FMC is replaced with a GPS with an option to add the Flight1 GTN750.

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1 minute ago, sidfadc said:

Nice when can we expect this bird to be released?

Thomas, PMDG never gives release dates :)

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They said on facebook it was VERY CLOSE... so, maybe we are VERY LUCKY and get it this weekend, but I personally suppose it to be released next week. PMDG somehow seems to like thursdays...

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3 minutes ago, YukonPete said:

Where is the FMC? I will not be purchasing if its not included.

 

Did you read Dan's reply 5posts above yours?

"That old FMC is replaced with a GPS with an option to add the Flight1 GTN750."

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34 minutes ago, downscc said:

That old FMC is replaced with a GPS with an option to add the Flight1 GTN750.

I thought PMDG always improved its product when releasing updates.  This is a step backwards! 

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1 minute ago, YukonPete said:

I thought PMDG always improved its product when releasing updates.  This is a step backwards! 

That is an opinion.  In my opinion the GTN750 is much more capable than the original FMC, which wasn't even certified for GPS/GNSS approaches.  In reality, current operators of this aircraft have for the most part done what PMDG is doing and is part of the decision.

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2 minutes ago, YukonPete said:

I thought PMDG always improved its product when releasing updates.  This is a step backwards! 

Not really. The real world JS41 fleet is retrofired as well with new avionics and they are ditching the GNS. The airplane PMDG chose to simulate is one of the upgraded ones.

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Huge disappointment not to have the original FMC. This would have been a definite purchase for me, but now I'll need to think about it.

And yes, I understand that real JS41 are being retrofitted. But the "unique" avionics suite the earlier release simulated was a big part of the charm.

James

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Stoked to hear I can use my GTN750, awesome bit of kit!

I don't know much about this aircraft but I love short haul regional planes.  Is it comparable to the Q400 in terms of distance and types of routes?

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I believe Q400 has a larger max range 1100NM max range vs 774nm if I remember correctly of the JS41. But in general same type of routes around 1 to 1.5 hours.

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I wont miss the old FMS. It was nice at the time....but time moves on.

The only thing I will say is that it would be good if you could choose the 750, 650, 430 or 530 GPS options (F1 or RXP etc) as the older GNS 530/430 units are more likely to be whats installed in the real thing these days.

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Unlike some, I believe this release will be a step forward for the J-41.  Much has been, and continues to be done, to make it compatible with P3D v4+ and the subtle changes in graphics and lighting have to be seen to be fully appreciated.  The original engendered enough affection to have PMDG take another look at a release for Prepar3D.  This version keeps the most of the endearing parts of the package and eschews the older FMC. I for one, chose not to install the GTN750, and decided to continue as I had with the DC-6 and work with raw data.  For those who drone endlessly through the flight levels, from waypoint to waypoint, following the magenta this will no doubt move significant amounts of cheese... not to fear, the increased workload of raw data navigation, coupled with working to keep the engines from melting, will keep one busy enough to avoid those cruise meditation segments, where one is prone to second guessing aircraft developers.

Anyone who enjoyed Rick Piper's superlative HS-748 will find themselves at home in superbly British environs.  The flows and mind set are the same.  No fuel trimmers or Darts, but the same propensity for hot starts and meltdowns.  Engine management is simple. Take off at 100%, climb, cruise and descend and approach at 98%, land at 100% and taxi at 72%.  That's it.  Oh, that and work your power levers very gently to avoid lengthy tea and biscuit sessions with the Chief Pilot.

The autopilot without auto-throttle is also immediately familiar to Rick's aficionados.  Presetting Heading, Initially cleared Altitude SEL and a positive 1000FPM VS will preset the AP for hand-off above 1000 agl.  When flying the J-41 in busy ATC environments, it is prudent to go through this aforementioned setup, so that the transition is smooth and uneventful.  Thoughtfully, engineering has provided 2 sets of hash marks on the EGTs so that derated take-off's are mostly non-computational (except for the necessary cross-check).  After clean-up engage the AP and once settled at 170 KIAS transition to IAS mode.  This will keep the AP flying speed on elevator, and you busy monitoring everything else, include ALT constraint removals, SID course changes and final level off.  On the way down, again engaging ALT SEL and IAS, and SLOWLY reducing power works well.  If additional VS control is needed, switching to VS is easy enough.  Just remember, there is NO SPEED PROTECTION cover- you are responsible for selecting a performance appropriate vertical flight path.

Whilst occupied with remembrances, don't forget that geared turbo-props either slow down, or go down.  They seldom do both.  As with transport category piston descent planning, here too, the visual vertical is important.  If you're too high, or too fast go around.  You aren't going to save the approach.

The beta is keeping us occupied, and forcing us to relearn the nuances of J-41 operation.  I'm sure that others here will share their videos with you shortly.  I will have to make do with prose and pictures, as I am mostly a git at video.

I would encourage all to stay involved, read, research and review what is forthcoming.  This aeroplane has sufficient charms for most...

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I would think anybody with prior experience of the J41 or indeed the q400 or a myriad of other non authrottle equipped turboprops will be fine with this new release. Obviously the geared turboprops pose a unique challenge, but it’s more a case of reacquainting oneself with the procedures. I always find IAS for climbing and VS for descents to be the most reliable and safe operation.

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We were having so much fun, we continued on to one of my very favorite Orbx Alaskan destinations- PAKT.  They normally do a superb job of scenery, but here as some other places, they've outdone themselves.... sloping taxiways- yeah!

Here we are just turning off the active...

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A mandatory wing view...

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Taxying down the slope for the far corner...

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And finally, nestled in beside the 738 on the ramp. The thing I'm most proud of in this piccie are the props... sitting nicely on the start locks for the next leg.  I'll get the hang of this yet!

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Hi Folks,

Umm - right up my ally and it will be my first PMDG purchase since the B1900... Looking forward to hopping around FL and the Caribbean - a nice little plane to get in and out of relatively small fields... I never used FSX so I missed out on this bird the first time around... Has it been stated if it will work in v3 or is this strictly a v4 thing ?

Regards,

Scott

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Scott-

 

I flew a Musketeer around Florida for a bit in another lifetime... lucky you!  Yes, v3 is also in the works.

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Hi Carl,

THANKS - a great little (completely underrated) aircraft... She flies like a dream - just a tad slower than comparable aircraft but has a bigger cockpit than a Bonanza... Since my Photobucket pix are dead - a few pix here if interested:

http://flightaware.com/photos/aircraft/N63503

Thanks for the info - I'm still on v3 with plans to move to v4 - so that's great news - I'll pick her up when released...

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Regards,

Scott 

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27 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Carl,

THANKS - a great little (completely underrated) aircraft... She flies like a dream - just a tad slower than comparable aircraft but has a bigger cockpit than a Bonanza... Since my Photobucket pix are dead - a few pix here if interested:

http://flightaware.com/photos/aircraft/N63503

Thanks for the info - I'm still on v3 with plans to move to v4 - so that's great news - I'll pick her up when released...

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Regards,

Scott 

She is a little beauty Scott.  I got to enjoy a Sierra for a few months with the Keesler Aero Club, very comfortable cockpit and a great IFR trainer.

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Hi Dan,

Thanks as well - yeah - it was a toss up - I had found a comparable Sierra when I was looking - just chickened out on worrying about the additional expense of a complex prop and retracts - 20/20 hindsight - it would probably have been fine...

I bet your club loved the massive barn door baggage compartment door - I've seen people load a clothes dryer through that door - pretty impressive - nothing like it in its class...

Regards,

Scott

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