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Cheyenne III Discrepancy List Thread

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Please send trouble tickets to Carenado and please add to this thread as you find problems.    

  • Prop animations viewed from the interior are corrupted.  
  1. On startup, the right prop does not spin slowly.  It goes directly from still to blurr.  If the right engine is started first, the left prop disappears.  It reappears when the right engine is shut down. 
  2. On shutdown, the right prop stops immediately.  The left prop spins down normally. 
  • The radar altimeter does not work.  Even with the power turned on, the needle does not move. 
  • The elevator trim wheel animation is wrong.  The trim wheel turns in the proper direction but the trim indication moves backwards. Also still a problem on the Cheyenne II.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, whamil77 said:

The elevator trim wheel animation is wrong.  The trim wheel turns in the proper direction but the trim indication moves backwards. Also still a problem on the Cheyenne II.

That's a bad one and needs to be fixed in both.  How can you even up the trim when it's out of whack without that?

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Hi Folks,

Yeah - did they fix the ignition switches - also on II the Beacon Strobe Switch I think was wrong... On the strobes position - both the Beacon and strobes should illuminate...

Regards,

Scott

 

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14 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

also on II the Beacon Strobe Switch I think was wrong... On the strobes position - both the Beacon and strobes should illuminate...

copy & paste from the PA31T thread:

I don't think that the switch/function i wrong. IRL the switch also says BEACON-OFF-STROBE. Not BEACON & STROBE. AFAIR the requirement is to have one of those lights turned on during flight. 

 

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1 hour ago, whamil77 said:

Please send trouble tickets to Carenado and please add to this thread as you find problems.    

  • Prop animations viewed from the interior are corrupted.  
  1. On startup, the right prop does not spin slowly.  It goes directly from still to blurr.  If the right engine is started first, the left prop disappears.  It reappears when the right engine is shut down. 
  2. On shutdown, the right prop stops immediately.  The left prop spins down normally.  

 

 

I do not have this problem but I use the Ezdok Camera views this might explain.

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17 minutes ago, J35OE said:

copy & paste from the PA31T thread:

I don't think that the switch/function i wrong. IRL the switch also says BEACON-OFF-STROBE. Not BEACON & STROBE. AFAIR the requirement is to have one of those lights turned on during flight. 

 

Hi J35OE,

Thanks for the help - I just couldn’t imagine a situation where you would want to turn the Beacon off when the Strobes are on... Typically the Beacon is on at all times the engine is in operation - where you normally add Strobes when taking the runway - leaving the Beacon on... LOL - at least that’s my experience in SEL aircraft... I realize in some cases the Strobes can act as a sole source of anti-collision lighting in place of a Beacon via FAA regs... Just seems odd that you would turn the Beacon off...

Regards,

Scott

 

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Hello All --- well after delaying my ILS testing, it proved to be disappointing. Seems the glide slope and localizer functions are not working. The indicators come up, but there is no deviation function. I had loaded the GTN750 earlier and decided to reload the entire aircraft and did so. This did not fix the problem with the ILS functions. Tested fully stock install and with GTN750. No joy. 

Also, I am running P3D ver. 4.1. 

Tested other Carenado aircraft just to make sure, and those are all working fine. Anyone else seeing the same issue??? 

Thanks :dry:

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  • Engine Percent RPM gauges incorrect.  The "mini-gauge" within the Engine Percent RPM gauge that is suppose to display single digit percentage shows double digit percentage just like the main gauge. 

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  • Inside the VC, when the left engine is shot down, does not show the blades.
  • The nose cone of the Cheyenne has different shadow. Actually, the darkness of shadow is inverse of the sun light.  

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1 hour ago, apollomaker said:

Hello All --- well after delaying my ILS testing, it proved to be disappointing. Seems the glide slope and localizer functions are not working. The indicators come up, but there is no deviation function. I had loaded the GTN750 earlier and decided to reload the entire aircraft and did so. This did not fix the problem with the ILS functions. Tested fully stock install and with GTN750. No joy. 

Also, I am running P3D ver. 4.1. 

Tested other Carenado aircraft just to make sure, and those are all working fine. Anyone else seeing the same issue??? 

Thanks :dry:

The ILS functions are working fine for me in v4.1 and GTN 750.  The  F1GTN.ini and F1GTNSTACK.ini files that come with the Carenado airplanes are very generic.  You might try substituting files from other airplanes that are working properly. 

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5 minutes ago, whamil77 said:

The ILS functions are working fine for me in v4.1 and GTN 750.  The  F1GTN.ini and F1GTNSTACK.ini files that come with the Carenado airplanes are very generic.  You might try substituting files from other airplanes that are working properly. 

Thanks for the feedback. I will do some experimenting to find a solution.

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I just sent Carenado everything included in the previous posts.  But the more folks send, even if it's just a duplicate of these, the better chance we have of getting Carenado to fix this stuff. 

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6 hours ago, scottb613 said:

Hi J35OE,

Thanks for the help - I just couldn’t imagine a situation where you would want to turn the Beacon off when the Strobes are on... Typically the Beacon is on at all times the engine is in operation - where you normally add Strobes when taking the runway - leaving the Beacon on... LOL - at least that’s my experience in SEL aircraft... I realize in some cases the Strobes can act as a sole source of anti-collision lighting in place of a Beacon via FAA regs... Just seems odd that you would turn the Beacon off...

Regards,

Scott

 

In the USA at least, what you would do is normal.  Beacon on when engine is operating day or night.  Strobes, if equipped would come on crossing or entering a runway.

For a typical light twin or single in the USA it would be:

NAV lights on sunset to sunrise

BCN on engine operating (aka prior to startup)

STROBES on as described above

Landing/taxi as needed

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1 hour ago, ryanbatcund said:

 Beacon on when engine is operating day or night. 

If you don't have the option to turn on both at the same time you simply can only use either one, even with N registered planes. That's what you normally do in the PA31T.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx9mYA4mzjU

 

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10 minutes ago, J35OE said:

If you don't have the option to turn on both at the same time you simply can only use either one, even with N registered planes. That's what you normally do in the PA31T.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx9mYA4mzjU

 

I agree with you....  maybe I mis wrote - but yeah.  On the ground at least, people don't put strobes on if they also have a beacon at night...until they enter the runway... blinds other pilots (and me in the tower!)  I once worked a baron that had more lights than a C130 - we called him "disco baron" lol - he was canadian and maybe they have different rules but he had so many white beacon lights everywhere... MY EYES ARE BURNING!!

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18 hours ago, J35OE said:

If you don't have the option to turn on both at the same time you simply can only use either one, even with N registered planes. That's what you normally do in the PA31T.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx9mYA4mzjU

 

 

18 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

I agree with you....  maybe I mis wrote - but yeah.  On the ground at least, people don't put strobes on if they also have a beacon at night...until they enter the runway... blinds other pilots (and me in the tower!)  I once worked a baron that had more lights than a C130 - we called him "disco baron" lol - he was canadian and maybe they have different rules but he had so many white beacon lights everywhere... MY EYES ARE BURNING!!

Hi Folks,

Well - since the Cheyenne is a favorite - I spent some time watching additional videos as well - and as odd as it seems - J35OE nailed it... I couldn’t find a single video with a Cheyenne with both the Beacon and Strobes illuminated at the same time... In fact  - 85% seem to have replaced the fairing cap on top of the vertical stabilizer - removing the Beacon entirely - probably for less drag... Thanks for the clarification...

Regards,

Scott

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17 minutes ago, flyuthere said:

Seems as though on livery N8680J the right side N number on tail is mis-alligned.  

As Bill mentioned earlier - get those tickets in and include all the previous discrepancies on the ticket - from past experience - you only have a short window before Carenado loses interest and moves on to the next project...

Regards,
Scott

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Wow... And they are asking 39$ U.S. for this? I'll keep coming back to this thread to see if these problems are addressed by Carenado/Alabeo and it will determine whether or not I purchase it. Thanks to those of you that stick your necks out and *properly* beta test these aircraft, it's greatly appreciated, especially for guys like myself who are in Canada and have to deal with U.S. currency exchange rate.

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Yes 39$ for this it is cheap. But do not exaggerate either I do not know any aircraft that has no problem with the release.

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14 hours ago, Mangouste said:

Yes 39$ for this it is cheap. But do not exaggerate either I do not know any aircraft that has no problem with the release.

Yes, but the question is will these problems be fixed?

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2 hours ago, stans said:

Yes, but the question is will these problems be fixed?

I do not work at Carenado. But they still come out of patches for their planes. And a correction does not happen in a few days.

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As with every new release from Carenado, I am thankful I did not give them my hard earned money. It’s amazing that people still pay them for this. While I am a systems guy, I can completely understand the desire for a simplified “fire up and fly” aircraft. And they do have some of, if not the best, visually appealing aircraft. But there are always problems that are so basic with every release. I do wish Carenado would get some proper Beta Testers to catch the simple things before shoveling another product out the door. 

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