I need help in deciding between two GA aircraft. I've been flying mostly heavies for the majority of my FS life, but in real flight training, I'm doing IFR flying, so I'd like a very good GA airplane to fly some victor airways, practice approaches...that kinda stuff..I pretty much have it narrowed down to the Dreamfleet Bonanza which I have heard nothing but rave reviews about and the Eaglesoft SR22. I already have the Aeroworx King Air and I love it to death. The Cirrus appeals to me because of the top notch avionics and it's something different, but I hear nothing but good for things the Bonanza. I haven't heard much about the Cirrus though.What do you think?Tim

The Bonanza is a winner. Dreamfleet hit a homerun. I have both the A36 and the Baron RXP and you will love them. The gauges, especially in the BaronRXP are so smooth. Good luck Tim.

Depends if you want to fly a video game,SR22 or a more traditional cockpit like the A36.Too much glass for a general aviation type plane for me but thats just my 2c. The baron rxp is a winner.

>Depends if you want to fly a video game,SR22 or a more>traditional cockpit like the A36.Absolutely! All that situational awareness and TCAS information is horribly distracting...:-roll

The dreamfleet A36 is an amazing MUST have airplane if you love GA. Especially with any RXP upgrades. However, you might also consider the Baron if you like twin engines. Very similar in quality. I have the Bonanza and think its among the best single engine payware aircraft yet made. Great value for money.Eric

>>Depends if you want to fly a video game,SR22 or a more>>traditional cockpit like the A36.>>Absolutely! All that situational awareness and TCAS>information is horribly distracting...:-roll Na dont take it that way. I own most all the paywares and alot of them are all glass cockpits. I also own alot of old school piston oil drippers and love those also. Cant beat Maam's DC-3. Anyways, I was trained and flew alot in my younger days with a pit full of gauges and when I want to do the civilian aviation thing I just like good ole big round gauges. And if you gotta thump em once in a while to get them to work the better.The newer crt pits I just feel like Im flying the monitor with a mouse.So just do like I do. Buy them all.

I'm with Jeff. He is spot on correct. A36 is superb and a treat. -jeff (another one!)

The Bonanza is an excellent plane, and I have it; but when it comes to glass versus traditional steam gauges, in real life flight, I'd rip out the steam gauges any day for a Garmin 1000, Avidyne, Chelton, Grand Rapids, or a few others.While the DC-3 and it's panel full of round gauges looks impressive to the non-pilot eye, there were still plenty of DC-3s, and many other makes, flying into mountains over the years, due to lost situational awareness. This is what the new glass panels are going to help prevent. We'll be avoiding rising terrain, obstacles, other aircraft, bad weather, restricted air-spaces, Class B boundaries, and temporary TFR's; thanks to glass and the instant situational awareness they provide.Since glass IS the future in real life flying, then I can only welcome more simulated models that have them. Can't think of a better and cheaper place to practice for real life, than right here on the home CPU! I've been in the home built/ experimental airplane market for many years. In this market, without a doubt, the traditional steam gauges are on the way out, with many panels going all electric glass systems.L.Adamson

Perhaps i'm the only one in the world who is NOT impressed with the DF A36.......or the Baron!To me, they are boring plane's to fly, lacking any character, frame rate hogs, and a panel that reminds me, of a bit of hospital equipment!Sure, they do everything right, but no where near as interesting to fly as the DF Archer (turbo version) or their CardinalsMy view...........Tramp

Tim,What I would recommend is getting the Bonanza, and then "boosting" it with the great turbo kit by Peter McLelland (available on the Dreamfleet A36 web site). I also added a few more RXP gauges to mine. All I can say is that there's not much I can't do with my Bonanza now!VFR_Canuckhttp://bryansblog.lumacs.caMy hangar: Flight1 PC-12, MAAM DC3, Carenado 182 RGII, Carenado 206 Stationair, RealAir SF-260, Dreamfleet A36 (with Turbo kit).

Well, going off the suggestions, I purchased the Bonanza and just completed my first flight...just did some victor airway tracking, followed by a GPS approach...sae GPS I use in the real airplane so that was nice. Flies very well, love the GPS. All in all outstanding aircraft in my opinion. The only problem I'm having is that the ground controlling seems very sensitive. Perhaps however that is a problem with my pedal sensitivity.Thanks for the advice,Tim

I've got them both, really like them both...but find myself flying the Cirrus allot more often (have both the 20 and 22).The performance is incredible, and avionics/VC is second to none. The A38 is also great in this regards, but as you say, the Cirrus is definitely different. Not the type of plane I would have considered in the past, but since purchasing it am really 'smitten', and have become a big fan. It can also accept RXP gns units if you have them, and also seems a bit more frame rate friendly than the Bonanza in VC.As someone said above, the glass cockpits are the future of GA, and the reaction from real world Cirrus pilots (on the ES forum) is very very positive in regards to Eaglsoft's reproduction of the Avidyne units...so much so that some use the ES Cirrus to actually learn/train without the cost of real flight. Pretty high compliment.You can't go wrong with either, but if you want to fly a really unique aircraft, give the Cirrus a try.

>>>Depends if you want to fly a video game,SR22 or a more>>>traditional cockpit like the A36.>>>>Absolutely! All that situational awareness and TCAS>>information is horribly distracting...:-roll >>Na dont take it that way. I own most all the paywares and alot>of them are all glass cockpits. WHIZZZ! That was the sound of my heavy irony flying past at 0.91M... ;)

I hear ya... Props are for boats...I got all the latest greatest fly by wire, video game jukeboxes but like I said, I still feel like Im just mousing a bunch a buttons.Its the difference betreen grilling a steak on a charcoal grill and having to fan the flames and tossing a tv dinner in the microwave.Ill take the no frills,do it by hand,paper and pencil Flight 1 727 over your Airbus,777,Angelina Jolene X-box graduate SR22 anyday...

>Ill take the no frills,do it by hand,paper and pencil Flight 1>727 over your Airbus,777,Angelina Jolene X-box graduate SR22>anyday...When you have a "pause" button, doing it by hand with paper & pencil works great!!!! :D