January 30, 20188 yr Hi, Has anyone had any luck installing these units into the Xtreme Prototypes Gates Learjet Model 25? I appear to have covered all the bases but without any luck so far. panel.cfg: // First optional panel ------------------------------------ [Vcockpit03] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 // no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_02_G_C // gauge00=Lear_45_XML!PFD,248,119,536,800 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,525,UNIT1.VC <----- entry added gauge01=F1GTN!GTN650,248,644,536,275,UNIT1.VC <----- entry added I've run the Flight1 GTN Series ConfigP3D tool and the necessary files have been added to the XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1 and the XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1 \Panel folders (F1GTN.ini and F1GTNSTACK.ini respectively). GTN Stack=Bottom Right After loading the GLG Model 25 I have tried cycling through the available panels by clicking the button on the right above the gauge and the second click produces a blank rectangular gauge of the correct dimensions to accomodate the GTN 750/650 but nothing else. Any help would be appreciated, please. Thanks. Regards, Mike Edit: I should have added that I have these gauges working fine in the A2A_C182, A2A PA24-250 Comanche, A2A PA28-180 Cherokee and the Milviz DHC-2 and 3 Beavers,
January 30, 20188 yr Hi Mike- Check your code against this. Comes from the Flight1 File Library System.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Default View] X=0 Y=0 SIZE_X=8192 SIZE_Y=6144 Day=255,255,255 Night=140,140,140 Luminous=180,180,180 [Window Titles] Window00=2D Cockpit Window01=GPS Window02=Flight1 Garmin GTN750 U1 Window03=Flight1 GTN Stack Window04=Flight1 Garmin GTN650 U1 // This addon has no main 2D panel (do not edit) ----------- [Window00] background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=1024,768 window_size_ratio=1.000 position=0 visible=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL window_size=1.000,1.000 window_pos=0.000,0.000 view_window_rect=8192,6144 nomenu=1 // Default FSX Garmin 500 GPS 2D panel ----------- [Window01] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=456,378 position=5 visible=0 always_visible=0 ident=GPS_PANEL window_size=0.400,0.550 window_pos=0.580,0.420 sizeable=1 gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,0,0 [Window02] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=937,887 ident=14401 zorder=99 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750, 0,0,937,887,UNIT1.POP window_pos= 0.660, 0.160 window_size= 0.340, 0.580 [Window03] size_mm=255,870 Position= 0 window_size= 0.058, 0.243 visible=1 ident=14400 zorder=100 gauge00=F1GTN!GTNStack, 0,0,255,1039 [Window04] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=937,390 ident=14403 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN650, 0,0,937,390,UNIT1.POP window_pos= 0.660, 0.740 window_size= 0.340, 0.260 zorder=99 // VIRTUAL COCKPIT SECTION STARTS HERE ////////////////////// // Default FSX Garmin 500 GPS display --------------------- [Vcockpit00] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 texture=$GLJ25_01_G_C gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,211,248,670,586 // Dummy radar display ------------------------------------- [Vcockpit01] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 texture=$GLJ25_05_G_C gauge00=XPGLJ25v2!dummy_radar_screen,212,270,602,445 // Tail number plaque (do not edit) ----------------------- [Vcockpit02] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=256 visible=1 pixel_size=256,256 no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_04_G_C gauge00=XPGLJ25v2!n_number_plaque,0,0,250,100 // First optional panel ------------------------------------ [Vcockpit03] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 // no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_02_G_C // gauge00=Lear_45_XML!PFD,248,119,536,800 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,525,UNIT1.VC gauge01=F1GTN!GTN650,248,644,536,275,UNIT1.VC // Second optional panel ----------------------------------- [Vcockpit04] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 // no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_03_G_C gauge00=Lear_45_XML!EICAS,248,119,536,800 // System gauges (do not edit) ----------------------- [Vcockpit05] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=256,256 visible=0 pixel_size=256,256 texture=$GLJ25_03_G_D gauge00=XPGL25v2_Sound!FBGS_XMLSound, 18,5,1,1,SimObjects\\Airplanes\\XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1\\sound\\extra#48 gauge01=XPGLJ25v2!misc_systems, 20,5,1,1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cheers, Mark
January 30, 20188 yr Hi Mike, I never had to run the Flight1 GTN Series ConfigP3D tool. All I did is change the original panel.cfg and it works fine. There are no other files like F1GTN.ini and F1GTNSTACK.ini. Remove these files and see if it works perhaps ? cheers Louis
January 30, 20188 yr Author Hi Mark, Louis Thanks for your quick responses. I’ll take a look and try your helpful suggestions later on today and report back. Real world stuff getting in the way.....yet again! Lol! Intrigued to know how the XP GLJ Model 25 Panel finds the F1GTN gauges if all it has to go on are those entries in Panel.cfg? Not at my PC right now to confirm but is there a F1GTN folder or F1GTN.dll file in P3D root? I’m guessing it has something to do with the ‘F1GTN!’ entry and would explain why those aforementioned 2 files may not be required. Regards, Mike
January 30, 20188 yr From memory you don't run the F1 config tool. The GLJ docs come with a section to copy and paste into the config. Job Done. Hope your sorted now when you get the time to look. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
January 30, 20188 yr Author 44 minutes ago, Nyxx said: From memory you don't run the F1 config tool. The GLJ docs come with a section to copy and paste into the config. Job Done. Hope your sorted now when you get the time to look. Hi David, Thanks. Copying that section from the document was indeed how I started out. Something else is not in play here. Will see what transpires later. Interesting info regarding not needing to use the F1 config tool. I think what persauaded me was having to use it before the F1 red logo appeared against the entry in the aircraft listing of the tool. Apparently this confirms the ‘successful’ installation of the gauges, and yet it seems they ain’t in this instance. Go figure! Regards, Mike
January 30, 20188 yr 12 hours ago, Cruachan said: [Vcockpit03] Hi Mike, don't have it installed at the moment but do have a copy of the Panel file. looks I installed it into the :Seconf optional panel ...Vccokpit04.. so you could try that bob // Second optional panel ----------------------------------- [Vcockpit04] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 // no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_03_G_C // gauge00=Lear_45_XML!EICAS,248,119,536,800 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,600,UNIT1.VC
January 30, 20188 yr 1 hour ago, onebob said: Hi Mike, don't have it installed at the moment but do have a copy of the Panel file. looks I installed it into the :Seconf optional panel ...Vccokpit04.. so you could try that bob // Second optional panel ----------------------------------- [Vcockpit04] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 // no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_03_G_C // gauge00=Lear_45_XML!EICAS,248,119,536,800 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,600,UNIT1.VC That looks odd and as its just for the 750! I will copy and paste what I used when I get home but I think it's [Vcockpit03] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 // no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_02_G_C // gauge00=Lear_45_XML!PFD,248,119,536,800 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,525,UNIT1.VC gauge01=F1GTN!GTN650,248,644,536,275,UNIT1.VC David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
January 30, 20188 yr 55 minutes ago, Nyxx said: That looks odd and as its just for the 750! I've just copied my files back into the add-ons folder and in it stalled in p3d v4.1 ok, had the same but remembered you have to switch on the bat/ Gen and inverters. bob
January 31, 20188 yr Author 9 hours ago, onebob said: I've just copied my files back into the add-ons folder and in it stalled in p3d v4.1 ok, had the same but remembered you have to switch on the bat/ Gen and inverters. bob Hi Bob, I'm afraid that didn't work either: Mike
January 31, 20188 yr Author Louis: Disabled F1GTN.ini and F1GTNSTACK.ini: XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1\F1GTN.ini.OFF XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1\panel\F1GTNSTACK.ini.OFF Result: Panels appeared - correctly positioned and sized but with no image content. Gauges appear to be inactive (OFF?) Renamed those files back to original ---> no change Mark: Tried the panel.cfg from the F1 Library --------> still no change --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Relevant files and locations: Prepar3D v4 root: F1GTN_complete.xml F1GTN_complete.dat Prepar3D v4\gauges: F1GTN.dll F1GTN_Keyboard.ini F1GTNSVC.dll gtnInterface.dll ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked to make sure everything still working in the Lancair, Duke and DHC-2 Beaver: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So, despite all best efforts, the continuing no show of the GTN 750/650 in the XP GLJ Model 25 Panel is proving to be very puzzling, to say the least, particularly as others seem to have had success. There must be an explanation, something simple we are missing, but what? I do enjoy a challenge but, really, this is proving to be a stonker!! Regards, Mike
January 31, 20188 yr On 30/01/2018 at 0:51 PM, newtie said: Hi Mike- Check your code against this. Comes from the Flight1 File Library System.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Default View] X=0 Y=0 SIZE_X=8192 SIZE_Y=6144 Day=255,255,255 Night=140,140,140 Luminous=180,180,180 [Window Titles] Window00=2D Cockpit Window01=GPS Window02=Flight1 Garmin GTN750 U1 Window03=Flight1 GTN Stack Window04=Flight1 Garmin GTN650 U1 // This addon has no main 2D panel (do not edit) ----------- [Window00] background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=1024,768 window_size_ratio=1.000 position=0 visible=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL window_size=1.000,1.000 window_pos=0.000,0.000 view_window_rect=8192,6144 nomenu=1 // Default FSX Garmin 500 GPS 2D panel ----------- [Window01] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=456,378 position=5 visible=0 always_visible=0 ident=GPS_PANEL window_size=0.400,0.550 window_pos=0.580,0.420 sizeable=1 gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,0,0 [Window02] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=937,887 ident=14401 zorder=99 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750, 0,0,937,887,UNIT1.POP window_pos= 0.660, 0.160 window_size= 0.340, 0.580 [Window03] size_mm=255,870 Position= 0 window_size= 0.058, 0.243 visible=1 ident=14400 zorder=100 gauge00=F1GTN!GTNStack, 0,0,255,1039 [Window04] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=937,390 ident=14403 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN650, 0,0,937,390,UNIT1.POP window_pos= 0.660, 0.740 window_size= 0.340, 0.260 zorder=99 // VIRTUAL COCKPIT SECTION STARTS HERE ////////////////////// // Default FSX Garmin 500 GPS display --------------------- [Vcockpit00] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 texture=$GLJ25_01_G_C gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,211,248,670,586 // Dummy radar display ------------------------------------- [Vcockpit01] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 texture=$GLJ25_05_G_C gauge00=XPGLJ25v2!dummy_radar_screen,212,270,602,445 // Tail number plaque (do not edit) ----------------------- [Vcockpit02] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=256 visible=1 pixel_size=256,256 no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_04_G_C gauge00=XPGLJ25v2!n_number_plaque,0,0,250,100 // First optional panel ------------------------------------ [Vcockpit03] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 // no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_02_G_C // gauge00=Lear_45_XML!PFD,248,119,536,800 gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,525,UNIT1.VC gauge01=F1GTN!GTN650,248,644,536,275,UNIT1.VC // Second optional panel ----------------------------------- [Vcockpit04] Background_color=36,36,36 size_mm=1024 visible=1 pixel_size=1024,1024 // no_luminous=1 texture=$GLJ25_03_G_C gauge00=Lear_45_XML!EICAS,248,119,536,800 // System gauges (do not edit) ----------------------- [Vcockpit05] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=256,256 visible=0 pixel_size=256,256 texture=$GLJ25_03_G_D gauge00=XPGL25v2_Sound!FBGS_XMLSound, 18,5,1,1,SimObjects\\Airplanes\\XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1\\sound\\extra#48 gauge01=XPGLJ25v2!misc_systems, 20,5,1,1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cheers, Mark Bingo works just fine thank you
January 31, 20188 yr Author 5 hours ago, Hubinwa said: Looks like your Radio Master switch is off. Ugh, now I’m beginning to feel a tad foolish....lol If that’s the answer I’ll be eating my digital hat!!! .....AND, if this proves to be the solution then I was so close without realising it: https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/530310-installing-f1-gtn-750650-into-xtreme-prototypes-gates-learjet-model-25/?do=findComment&comment=3801845 .....in which I stated, “Gauges appear to be inactive (OFF?)” Sadly that switch must remain beyond reach for a few more hours......soooo frustrating! God, how this hobby gets to you. Anyone else feel the same or am I ‘preaching to the converted’? Mike
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