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Posted
1 minute ago, G-YMML1 said:

Does RC work under v4.3?

Yes, works fine. I, too, returned to RC from PATC.

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

I prefer to use manual TD initiation that you can set-up in the menu

I've just seen that option, thank you.

Do you just ask for decent and it give you a FL? with that option ON.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

I've just seen that option, thank you.

Do you just ask for decent and it give you a FL? with that option ON.

Exactly. You may request TD at any point of time, however PATC woud take into account overall descent profile and may "decrease" your descend rate by delaying new FLs

Posted
9 minutes ago, hvw said:

Yes, works fine. I, too, returned to RC from PATC.

 

 

Hmmm...perhaps I should revisit RC forum for the instructions how to install into P3Dv4. In my opinion, RC vectoring alone is still top notch after all these years.

Posted
1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

Have you any suggestion to what to set A319 NG to Bob?

If I remember correctly, I had to set the 737 NGX to about 1200 FPM to get it to work properly. Just trial and error. 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

If I remember correctly, I had to set the 737 NGX to about 1200 FPM to get it to work properly. Just trial and error. 

Thanks Bob, I'm sure this is the problem I've just opened it up and it says

737-800

Descent rate below FL 100 =1500

Descent rate below FL 240=3500

Descent rate above FL 240=800 <<<<<<<800 !!!!!!

It's the same for the A319

but, Descent rate above FL 240=1000<<<<<1000 lol

Think I will try 1200-1500 for both.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, G-YMML1 said:

Does RC work under v4.3?

I don’t have v4 yet but if FSUIPC works then RC4 will. Its simplicity is its strength.

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Just now, Ray Proudfoot said:

I don’t have v4 yet but if FSUIPC works then RC4 will. Its simplicity is its strength.

Ray,

I assume that old receipts and codes from 2006 still work for re-authorization? Honestly, I forgot how the routine works for RC4 🙂 I'll try to reinstall it over coming weekend

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David,

It might be an idea to use a known route to tweak the settings. Around 20 years ago I flew EGCC-EGLL on a BA 757. It climbed up to FL210, stayed there for a couple of minutes before starting the descent. BNN at FL70 followed by ATC guidance down to 3500 over Canary Wharf before the big right turn for a 27 approach.

That was the ideal FL for the short hop. Given the A320 and 737-800 are similar in performance the profile should be similar.

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4 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

Ray,

I assume that old receipts and codes from 2006 still work for re-authorization? Honestly, I forgot how the routine works for RC4 🙂 I'll try to reinstall it over coming weekend

You may need the update to v4.3. If so, check the many posts on the RC Forum for Doug Thompson’s email address. He’ll provide the link.

Then install, get your registration code and send it in an email to the relevant address for your product code. It will help if you use the same email address as when you bought it.

Full details on the pinned topic on RC Forum. 

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The Pro-ATC forum is here.  http://www.pointsoftware.de/proatcxforum/forum/  You will need to register to see and participate in all the threads and to sign your own posts with your full name.

Nevertheless, you've been given the correct answers.  The aircraft descent parameters in the aircraft database for the 737 which I use do look odd although the developers swear they come from a professional source.  They do tend to produce an early TOD for me compared to the PMDG FMC so you may need to tweak them.  There is the question of whether both sources have a STAR and runway set up at the relevant time.  It makes a lot of difference to the length of a short flight if you are having to go right around to the far side of your destination and approach from the other end.  In the case of Pro-ATC leaving the TOD too late for your liking, you can request one manually.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the Pro-ATC aircraft database may be overwritten when the software is updated.  There has recently been a significant update (May, to 1.9.2.5) and further updates can be expected.  Keep a note or screen capture of the settings you like and check they are still there after an update. 

 

 

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