For running P3Dv4 and DCS World.

I have an i7-3770K and a GTX 960/4gb

I have 2 upgrade thoughts:

(1)  Upgrade the GPU to something much newer

(2)  Keep the GPU and upgrade the CPU to an Intel 8400 or even 8600K

 

Which is liable to yield better improvement in simming with these 2 sims?

 

Your thoughts much appreciated, brother simmers!

Hi, what resolution and what budget do you have ?

Long story short, if you are running or planning to run your sims at more than FullHd you might want to think about a GPU upgrade first.

Otherwise a CPU upgrade and overclock would be what I would upgrade first.

IMHO the both will need an upgrade within 1-2 years anyway.

Edited August 29, 20187 yr by TopGun33

1920x1080 is my res for the foreseeable future.  No cash for 4k monitors.

1 hour ago, Boomer said:

1920x1080 is my res for the foreseeable future.  No cash for 4k monitors.

OK ! Then I'd go for the CPU upgrade. If you are not in a hurry you might want to wait a bit for the release of the 9th generation Kaby Lake R (iX-9XXX) so maybe some prices will drop. Don't forget that upgrading the CPU from a 3770K (my CPU also) also means new motherboard, new RAM, new cooler so that's a fair budget.

Also maybe others have some insights about your question 🙂

 

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 20187 yr by TopGun33

Okay cheers TopGun!

CPU upgrade is my thought as well.  P3D is still CPU intensive even in 64 bit.

6 minutes ago, Boomer said:

Okay cheers TopGun!

CPU upgrade is my thought as well.  P3D is still CPU intensive even in 64 bit.

You are welcome. For the record, I am aiming at an upgrade with the i9-9900K 32 Gb of RAM and the relevant motherboard and cooler. I am waiting for true, objective reviews concerning its performance because I want to make sure what to expert.

Edited August 29, 20187 yr by TopGun33

9 hours ago, TopGun33 said:

 

Edited August 30, 20187 yr by TopGun33

On 8/29/2018 at 11:06 AM, Boomer said:

Okay cheers TopGun!

CPU upgrade is my thought as well.  P3D is still CPU intensive even in 64 bit.

I agree.... still though a 960 has little vram for P3D v4.  Im on a 980 now (friend gave it to me) and it seems to help in v4.  

On 29 August 2018 at 4:32 PM, Boomer said:

1)  Upgrade the GPU to something much newer

 (2)  Keep the GPU and upgrade the CPU to an Intel 8400 or even 8600K

Have you overclocked your current system? If not, that would be my first suggestion. You should easily get a higher CPU clock speed than the 8400 and higher than the stock speed of the 8600k. The extra cores you'd get by upgrading are not going to affect performance enough to justify the cost IMHO. A good cooling solution (for the overclock) and some research about overclocking would probably give you a noticeable performance boost at significantly less cost than a new CPU, motherboard and RAM (all required for a CPU upgrade). Even if you were not satisfied with the performance boost post-overclock, the new cooler would be usable for future upgrades so would not be wasted money.

If you did upgrade the CPU, particularly if you opted for the 8600k, you'd probably find that your existing GPU would become a bottleneck which restricted the full potential of the new processor anyway.

So, the system I outlined in my OP is one that never ran my simms, it's too slow.

My simming rig was a z87/4670k.  That mobo got fried recently.

Based upon the feedback I'm getting here I need to replace my mobo and hope the 4670k is still functional.

Thanks and wish me luck.

1 hour ago, Boomer said:

So, the system I outlined in my OP is one that never ran my simms, it's too slow.

My simming rig was a z87/4670k.  That mobo got fried recently.

Based upon the feedback I'm getting here I need to replace my mobo and hope the 4670k is still functional.

Thanks and wish me luck.

Do you know why your original mobo failed? It’s happened to me twice over the years, and in both cases, it was ultimately caused by a failure of the power supply, that probably put too much voltage into the mobo.

In addition to budgeting for a replacement mobo, you may need to replace the PSU too unless you are 100 percent certain that it is working properly.

1 hour ago, JRBarrett said:

Do you know why your original mobo failed? It’s happened to me twice over the years, and in both cases, it was ultimately caused by a failure of the power supply, that probably put too much voltage into the mobo.

This!  It's rare that a motherboard "dies"... they're almost always killed off by a duff PSU.

Greg

Psu was tested working with both a multimeter and on a second pc

1 hour ago, Boomer said:

Psu was tested working with both a multimeter and on a second pc

That’s good to know. Based on my own experiences, I can never quite trust a PSU again if a computer component fries on its watch.

However that certainly doesn’t mean there was not a latent failure on your mobo that would have happened no matter how good the PSU is/was.

I would also recommend the CPU, last week my MSI 1080 + GAMER GPU died got in touch with supply and carried out all the checks it`s u.s , luckily I run two desktop PCs one with an i5 with a MSI 960 GPU which I slotted into my flight PC to check the motherboard PCI all working ok, to my surprise my PD3v4,3 ran ok with very little performance drop and I'm running in 4k still, the only thing I do get is texture lag on switching views and some pausing in very dense scenery, and my P3Dv4.3 settings are still max in the top section and very dense auto gen FPS cap 29 still, 

Which confirms to me CPU=PERFORMANCE   GPU= I CANDY.  

A replacement msi 1080 is on it`s way just under 12 mths old but has a 3year man warranty.