September 28, 20187 yr They don't have a very big fleet, just three 737's, this is gonna hurt them Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
September 28, 20187 yr Moderator Wow! It is fortunate that there were so many small watercraft to rescue the passengers! I'm sure though that all their luggage is ruined. Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
September 28, 20187 yr Seems the flight crew is gonna have some splainin' to do... 🤐 Glad all made it out alive! Greg
September 28, 20187 yr Only 100 feet of water,should have the recorders soon,and answers. http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/Display/Article/1647405/us-navy-uct-2-renders-assistance-following-plane-crash-in-chuuk/ Edited September 28, 20187 yr by BIGSKY Jim Driscoll, MSI Raider GE76 12UHS-607 17.3" Gaming Laptop Computer - Blue Intel Core i9 12th Gen 12900HK 1.8GHz Processor; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 16GB GDDR6; 64GB DDR5-4800 RAM; Dual M2 2TB Solid State Drives.Driving a Sony KD-50X75, and KDL-48R470B @ 4k 3724x2094,MSFS 2020, 30 FPS on Ultra Settings. Jorg/Asobo: “Weather is a core part of our simulator, and we will strive to make it as accurate as possible.”Also Jorg/Asobo: “We are going to limit the weather API to rain intensity only.”
September 29, 20187 yr Yes very unfortunate. A non precision approach (apparently in heavy rain at the time) with an out of service PAPI on runway 04 and the holes in the cheese start to line up. Just add an in correct altimeter baro setting, for good measure, and you're in for some serious trouble. It must have stopped quick ditching with the gear down. Cheers Steve Hall
September 30, 20187 yr On 9/28/2018 at 10:38 PM, Matthew Kane said: They don't have a very big fleet Well they have an even smaller fleet now. But on the plus side, their fleet appears to have gained a floatplane and two of their crew are now qualified on water landings. 😁 More seriously, it's quite a testament to the robustness of the 737 that it appears largely in one piece for having suffered such a mishap. The 737 appears to have a reasonably respectable record in this regard. If I recall correctly the type has had three 'water landing' incidents over the years if we include this recent incident, plus... The Garuda Indonesia 737 ditching into the Bengawan Solo River after a dual engine flame out, with one flight attendant killed owing to the tail breaking off during the ditching. A US Air 737 overrunning the runway at LaGuardia and ending up in the East River and breaking up, with three people killed. And an Air Florida 737 which went into the Potomac with only six people on board surviving the crash, plus several fatalities on the ground too; but that was after it hit the road bridge owing to icing on the wings, so that incident was definitely more of a crash which ended up in a river, rather than a ditching or something akin to one. Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
September 30, 20187 yr 20 hours ago, cowpatz said: Yes very unfortunate. A non precision approach (apparently in heavy rain at the time) with an out of service PAPI on runway 04 and the holes in the cheese start to line up. Just add an in correct altimeter baro setting, for good measure, and you're in for some serious trouble. It must have stopped quick ditching with the gear down. There's been some back-and-forth on pprune.org about whether it actually ditched in the water short of the runway, or if it was from the other direction, a late touchdown and overrun off the runway into the water. A new passenger report indicates they banged at least once on the runway (possible tail strike), then an overrun into the water. This also matches the direction the plane was facing during the rescue. X-Plane and Microsoft Flight Simulator on Windows 10 i7 6700 4.0 GHz, 32 GB RAM, GTX 1660 ti, 1920x1200 monitor
September 30, 20187 yr Yeah I would think overrun given passenger reports and gear down ... gear down at speed into water would likely breakup the aircraft. Certainly looks more like overrun and much slower entry into the water. But at this point I’d still suggest Pilot error that could be due to “Company” pressure to make the landing. Cheers, Rob
September 30, 20187 yr Original accounts were of an overun and then this changed to a short landing. You would think it would be relatively easy to tell. Cheers Steve Hall
September 30, 20187 yr Best Details: http://avherald.com/h?article=4be42f25&opt=1 Edited September 30, 20187 yr by Matthew Kane Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
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