ryanbatcund

ASCA textures?

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I'm looking to get nicer clouds...  I made a post in the screenshot forum titled wild blue yonder and it's using default clouds.

How do people like ASCA?

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Oh boy - here we go again - I'm tempted to just say search through Avsim Ryan but you've been around long enough to know that. 😀

I like them and prefer them to what's currently available.

You will now get many opinions in agreement and disagreement. Then we have to bring in the extra's like Envtex and PTA and TomatoShade.

So, since I'm first - ASP4, ASCA & Envtex are my personal favorites. Great looking, very realistic and performance friendly PLUS they were designed to work with ASP4 dynamically.

But it's your eyes that will be looking at them.

Vic

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I like it a lot. It's simple and integrates into Active Sky so you don't ever know it's running or even have to open it up. Start your Active Sky and Cloud Art will do it's thing for you. Clouds look really good obviously and look good flying through them.

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1 minute ago, vgbaron said:

You will now get many opinions in agreement and disagreement. Then we have to bring in the extra's like Envtex and PTA and TomatoShade.

Ha! Too funny. I was typing my reply as above, and when I was writing I started to mention "other" options but stopped myself and hit the delete key a few times and said to myself, nah it is not needed and will only start something, I'll just answer the question 😄

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1 minute ago, PWJT8D said:

Ha! Too funny. I was typing my reply as above, and when I was writing I started to mention "other" options but stopped myself and hit the delete key a few times and said to myself, nah it is not needed and will only start something, I'll just answer the question 😄

I was tempted to hide the entire subject as it's been gone over many times but that wouldn't be fair to new people or others who haven't seen prior discussions.

It's just that it is purely an individual opinion. There is no wrong answer.

Vic

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Yeah thanks just looking for recent opinions.  Search is always available but outdated usually., and people's opinions change too.

Seems like a no brainer then.  I've played with tomato shade (you might have seen my "inverted russian" post at the ss forums - but I've found that shader mod wrecks sunset time, so I've deleted it for now)

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36 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

I'm looking to get nicer clouds...  I made a post in the screenshot forum titled wild blue yonder and it's using default clouds.

How do people like ASCA?

I use REX soft clouds with kiwi's freeware sky textures & sun mod.

ASP4 & REX SC is what I recommend.

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20 minutes ago, DJJose said:

I use REX soft clouds with kiwi's freeware sky textures & sun mod.

ASP4 & REX SC is what I recommend.

You have a link to those kiwi mods?  I can't find much at the avsim library.  Looks like I actually have a rendition of soft clouds I purchased but when I login with my account I can't see it.  I do have an email with the info though... hmmm

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Hi Folks,

My sky cocktail of choice for a while now:

  • ASP4
  • ASCA for cloud textures.
  • ENVTEX for other textures.
  • ENVSHADE

     *** I have REX TD - I don't use it.

Regards,
Scott

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20 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

You have a link to those kiwi mods?  I can't find much at the avsim library.  Looks like I actually have a rendition of soft clouds I purchased but when I login with my account I can't see it.  I do have an email with the info though... hmmm

http://www.skyforsim.ga/p3dv4

If you have your REX SC code, just send Reed an email and ask for a link.

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9 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

My sky cocktail of choice for a while now:

  • ASP4
  • ASCA for cloud textures.
  • ENVTEX for other textures.
  • ENVSHADE

     *** I have REX TD - I don't use it.

Regards,
Scott

What's your PC specs?  Would my GTX 980 have issues running all that?

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Just now, ryanbatcund said:

What's your PC specs?  Would my GTX 980 have issues running all that?

Hi Ryan,

LOL - I don't think so...

2700K@4.7Ghz GTX970

ENVTEX  has a nice feature where it combines it's custom textures with ASCA...

Personally - I think ASCA always had the best looking clouds even after trying others... 

The inexpensive ENVSHADE looks real good to me as well...

Just my two cents and opinions vary - I'm pretty happy with my setup...

Regards,

Scott

 

 

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5 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Ryan,

LOL - I don't think so...

2700K@4.7Ghz GTX970

ENVTEX  has a nice feature where it combines it's custom textures with ASCA...

Personally - I think ASCA always had the best looking clouds even after trying others... 

The inexpensive ENVSHADE looks real good to me as well...

Just my two cents and opinions vary - I'm pretty happy with my setup...

Regards,

Scott

 

 

Alright thanks Scott...  I give ASCA a try - it's supposed to integrate with ASP4 anyway

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IMO

I think ASCA's biggest weakness is the clouds &  sky textures. Cloud structures are its greatest asset but work best with it's own cloud sets. It's the reason why most users have to buy ENVTEX to get better looking skies, but the clouds do not look very good. This has not changed and probably won't until a new version of ASCA is released.

ENVTEX will be releasing an update and it is supposed to allow you to use ENVTEX clouds with ASCA in dynamic modes.

You might also want to check out REX SkyForce. It works well with ASP4. Right now those two addons are probably the best combo.

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Yeah I tried Skyforce but it wouldn't install on my PC... Reed was very helpful but I ended with a refund.  I do have the TD w/SC maybe I'll try those too if I don't like ASCA

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30 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

My sky cocktail of choice for a while now:

  • ASP4
  • ASCA for cloud textures.
  • ENVTEX for other textures.
  • ENVSHADE

     *** I have REX TD - I don't use it.

Regards,
Scott

I use the same setup.  Very happy with it.  The great thing about it also is set and forget.  It takes care of everything depending on conditions.

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58 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

I use the same setup.  Very happy with it.  The great thing about it also is set and forget.  It takes care of everything depending on conditions.

Chance you could PM me some screenshots of the best setups?

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12 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

Chance you could PM me some screenshots of the best setups?

Do u mean my settings or in sim screenshots?

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Asca settings?

global automatic or full dynamics ??

which is more suitable?

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1 hour ago, mikeymike said:

Asca settings?

global automatic or full dynamics ??

which is more suitable?

Full Dynamics and Global Automatic work the same for all but "Cloud Textures".

Specific to Cloud Textures: 
For Full Dynamics, each of the ~400 cloud model variants are specifically associated to explicit cloud texture variants. A generic example: Model variant CumulusHumilis48s3 might be associated to "Satin". There are approximately 8 unique cloud texture variants within all associations including the High Performance Hard and High Performance Soft variants, which are reduced-resolution generic soft/hard variants used for overcast clouds per your Overcast Cloud Resolution setting. In this mode, you can have in theory up to 8 different cloud texture variants visible at once depending on the cloud models used in each of the wx cells used within your visible range.

For Global Automatic, only one cloud texture variant (i.e. Satin) is used at a time for all clouds (thus "Global"), but updates throughout your flight as wx conditions change. It changes when the conditions change. For example you may be in a "Fair Wx" profile at departure, but 10 minutes later are in a "Hazy" profile or perhaps a "Rainy" profile. Any time this changes, AS16 will trigger a change, re-selection of wx influenced items, and re-activation of such items.

The wx influence used for Global Automatic cloud selections and the general "Auto" cirrus and sky color selections is based on many factors, not just METAR (air stability, for one).

The wx influence parameters are changed (if desired) within ASCA settings for Wx Influence, by choosing which profiles should be considered for specific variants.

Sky colors: For the Instinctive1-5 sets, 1 is more hazy/desaturated, while 5 is more clear/vibrant. The idea is that clearer or more unstable atmospheres have a certain visual vibrance enhancements to the sky colors.
 

Vic

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7 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

Yeah I tried Skyforce but it wouldn't install on my PC...

That's a shame because I prefer SkyForce clouds over ASCA clouds. 😉 But maybe you'd prefer ASCA over SF, no one knows. ASCA is better than default clouds, that's for sure, so things will improve a lot anyway! 😉 I do wonder though why you are using default clouds now and are looking at ASCA while you own TD+SC...? You don't like TD+SC? Or did you buy those but never install them?

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I use the following:

ASP4 as weather engine

REXSky Force for cloud textures

ASCA for dynamic skies

REX4 Texture Direct for ground and water textures

For me works perfect and smooth and together with ORBX scenery is my best option.

Best regards.

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8 hours ago, vgbaron said:

Full Dynamics and Global Automatic work the same for all but "Cloud Textures".

Specific to Cloud Textures: 
For Full Dynamics, each of the ~400 cloud model variants are specifically associated to explicit cloud texture variants. A generic example: Model variant CumulusHumilis48s3 might be associated to "Satin". There are approximately 8 unique cloud texture variants within all associations including the High Performance Hard and High Performance Soft variants, which are reduced-resolution generic soft/hard variants used for overcast clouds per your Overcast Cloud Resolution setting. In this mode, you can have in theory up to 8 different cloud texture variants visible at once depending on the cloud models used in each of the wx cells used within your visible range.

For Global Automatic, only one cloud texture variant (i.e. Satin) is used at a time for all clouds (thus "Global"), but updates throughout your flight as wx conditions change. It changes when the conditions change. For example you may be in a "Fair Wx" profile at departure, but 10 minutes later are in a "Hazy" profile or perhaps a "Rainy" profile. Any time this changes, AS16 will trigger a change, re-selection of wx influenced items, and re-activation of such items.

The wx influence used for Global Automatic cloud selections and the general "Auto" cirrus and sky color selections is based on many factors, not just METAR (air stability, for one).

The wx influence parameters are changed (if desired) within ASCA settings for Wx Influence, by choosing which profiles should be considered for specific variants.

Sky colors: For the Instinctive1-5 sets, 1 is more hazy/desaturated, while 5 is more clear/vibrant. The idea is that clearer or more unstable atmospheres have a certain visual vibrance enhancements to the sky colors.
 

Vic

Thank you for the informative answer.

i gather global automatic would have more of an impact on performance?

mike

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For me it was negligible.

Vic

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