I can later on Ray but it is as you describe and is the same as it was at the show. There is one aileron switch and two black push buttons above it.

Chris

2¢. If you listen to and try to please everyone you'll end up pleasing no-one, least of all yourself. Make the yoke YOU want to see, at least one person will be pleased with the result.

I'd be in the market whatever side the PTT is on.

Ha!

Thanks Ron!

That is pretty much what I did to start with. The button position tweaking was post feedback on the prototype. Hopefully my idea of good aligns with everyone elses!

Chris

1 hour ago, tutmeister said:

I can later on Ray but it is as you describe and is the same as it was at the show. There is one aileron switch and two black push buttons above it.

Chris

Hi Chris,

That’s one less toggle switch than the Saitek but an extra button. I should be able to cope with that.

Our next NWFSG meeting is a week on Saturday. Hope you can make it.

As promised....I'll message you later about details Ray.

Chris

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Hi Chris,

That’s one less toggle switch than the Saitek but an extra button. I should be able to cope with that.

 

Don't forget that the Saitek has a mode switch (wheel) which in effect triples the number of functions available using the other yoke switches and so provides a lot of flexibility for adapting the yoke to different situations.

Al

Edited February 7, 20197 yr by ark

 

28 minutes ago, ark said:

Don't forget that the Saitek has a mode switch (wheel) which in effect triples the number of functions available using the other yoke switches and so provides a lot of flexibility for adapting the yoke to different situations.

Al

Only if you install the Saitek software which I’ve never done.

1 hour ago, tutmeister said:

As promised....I'll message you later about details Ray.

Chris

Thanks Chris, looks good.😀

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 

Only if you install the Saitek software which I’ve never done.

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 Ray, that 's not the case. I've used the mode switch to good advantage for years, but don't use the Saitek software.

I do use FSUIPC.

Al

7 minutes ago, ark said:

 Ray, that 's not the case. I've used the mode switch to good advantage for years, but don't use the Saitek software.

I do use FSUIPC.

Al

Fair enough Al. Can you remember which action each button executes for each of the three modes? That’s probably why it’s never been discussed much. Or maybe I’m just getting too old. ☹️

29 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Fair enough Al. Can you remember which action each button executes for each of the three modes? That’s probably why it’s never been discussed much. Or maybe I’m just getting too old. ☹️

Yes, I can imagine it could be a challenge to remember what everything does if you used all the combinations that are available (although a friend of mine pretty much does this, but he is still a youngster in his 60s  😉). I just use a few of the 'extra'  combinations. For example, I can switch what the hat switch does from a view panning mode to a mode where it popups some different 2D windows that I use. I have found that the combinations I use fairly frequently I do remember. As another example, using the mode switch I can 'switch' my PTT button between TeamSpeak and VATSIM, which is handy when flying with friends on VATSIM, etc. So if I decide to go to a better yoke like one of the 'new ones' that are being discussed in different threads on this forum, I will need to make some significant adjustments.

Al

7 hours ago, ark said:

So if I decide to go to a better yoke like one of the 'new ones' that are being discussed in different threads on this forum, I will need to make some significant adjustments.

As I recall, the mode switch on the Saitek and its equivalent on the CH Eclipse just holds down one of three buttons. You can then use the conditional button functions in FSUIPC to program three separate actions for every other button. It's fiddly because you have to do it by editing the fsuipc.ini file manually, but it's not that hard. If you don't have a mode switch you can still do this by designating another button as a shift key, so doubling your options. You could also get yourself a Leo Bodnar board and add your own mode switch!

14 hours ago, ark said:

Yes, I can imagine it could be a challenge to remember what everything does if you used all the combinations that are available (although a friend of mine pretty much does this, but he is still a youngster in his 60s  😉). I just use a few of the 'extra'  combinations. For example, I can switch what the hat switch does from a view panning mode to a mode where it popups some different 2D windows that I use. I have found that the combinations I use fairly frequently I do remember. As another example, using the mode switch I can 'switch' my PTT button between TeamSpeak and VATSIM, which is handy when flying with friends on VATSIM, etc. So if I decide to go to a better yoke like one of the 'new ones' that are being discussed in different threads on this forum, I will need to make some significant adjustments.

Al

You can assign one of the right hand side buttons to teamspeak PTT and leave the left hand one as Vatsim, or is you dont use AP Disc use the red and black on the left for different PTT. Just remember which is which!😁

Presumably, it will be recognised by FSUIPC and you can assign any button to whatever you want, no?

1 hour ago, Ron Attwood said:

Presumably, it will be recognised by FSUIPC and you can assign any button to whatever you want, no?

Yes, I would certainly expect so! 

I also like to have two vertically oriented rocker switches, one for pitch trim and one for flaps. Having those switches oriented vertically (up/down) makes them more intuitive to use for me. A horizontal rocker switch is nice for aileron trim, but I don't need that very often.

While I understand the motivation for modeling a sim yoke after the 'real thing', the fact is most of us don't have a 'real a/c like panel' with real switches in front of us, and also fly different a/c with the same yoke.  So for me having 'extra' yoke switches and assignment flexibility helps to compensate for the lack of accessible panel switches and also facilitates moving between a/c.The alternative, of course, is to use the mouse in the virtual cockpit which I often find inconvenient, or to purchase additional hardware.

To each his own.

Al

Edited February 8, 20197 yr by ark

3 hours ago, Ron Attwood said:

Presumably, it will be recognised by FSUIPC and you can assign any button to whatever you want, no?

Ron, FSUIPC recognises anything identified by Windows. I haven’t spoken to Chris about how Windows recognises his yoke. Is a driver required? Otherwise how does it identify with the correct number of buttons etc?