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No Chime sound on Data Link activation - 744

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Hi all, shouldnt there be a chime sound when DATA LINK becomes active ? I never get one on the 744 (BCF). Is that only me ?

regards

 

 

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I have the strange feeling that I am the only one still flying the "old" Queen, and especially the BCF...Is everybody on the -8 now?

Could that be ?   LOL

 

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4 minutes ago, Sekkha said:

I have the strange feeling that I am the only one still flying the "old" Queen, and especially the BCF...Is everybody on the -8 now?

Could that be ?   LOL

 

Nope, sometimes I absolutely prefer the 744, all above due to FS2Crew.

I've never got a chime on either 747, though. I really can't say if there SHOULD be any but I had expected it too and was wondering a bit. 

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I don't think the 747-400 chimes like you hear in the 777 or the 747-8. I noticed it too when I started flying it when it came out. I think it is just not a feature in the 747-400.

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4 hours ago, Sekkha said:

I have the strange feeling that I am the only one still flying the "old" Queen, and especially the BCF...Is everybody on the -8 now?

Could that be ?   LOL

I haven't flown either since I haven't been home, so haven't had time to fly.

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15 hours ago, Sekkha said:

I have the strange feeling that I am the only one still flying the "old" Queen, and especially the BCF...Is everybody on the -8 now?

Could that be ?   LOL

 

Of course not the 400 is very well and alive 

richard Nunez 

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On 10/23/2018 at 8:08 AM, Sekkha said:

Hi all, shouldnt there be a chime sound when DATA LINK becomes active ? I never get one on the 744 (BCF). Is that only me ?

regards

 

 

There is no sound to it only  the 777 and the 747 8

richard Nunez 

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8 hours ago, Richardnunez said:

There is no sound to it only  the 777 and the 747 8

richard Nunez 

you mean as per design, right ?   Maybe this should be stated in the introduction manual  then..

 

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41 minutes ago, Sekkha said:

you mean as per design, right ?   Maybe this should be stated in the introduction manual  then..

 

Yes maybe it should but to be honest I don’t think it’s that important 

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It‘s actually a notification for when something happenes on its own like a wind update or a company message etc. When you log into ACARS you actually know that you are doing it so the chime would be just there but without any real importance. And the -400 doesn‘t do automatic wind updates, does it?

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1 hour ago, Richardnunez said:

 to be honest I don’t think it’s that important 

Of course not :)

But it would prevent people from thinking that something is not working as it should , which is what people (including me) dont like...

The whole thread wouldnt have been necessary then.. LOL

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5 hours ago, Sekkha said:

you mean as per design, right ?   Maybe this should be stated in the introduction manual  then..

 

The 744 doesn't have the ECL, or a tail cam, or the EFB, or the keypad-based radios, or many of the other items that the newer Boeings have. Listing all of the things the plane doesn't have would be a list much longer than the Intro already is, I would argue.

What other function in the 744 gives you a hi-low chime to give you the impression that it has the function available in this regard?

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5 hours ago, Sekkha said:

you mean as per design, right ?   Maybe this should be stated in the introduction manual  then..

 

I agree with the other responses.  You're thinking the manual should emphasize that functions not incorporated in the real aircraft are also not included in the model...?

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38 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

The 744 doesn't have the ECL, or a tail cam, or the EFB, or the keypad-based radios, or many of the other items that the newer Boeings have. Listing all of the things the plane doesn't have would be a list much longer than the Intro already is, I would argue.

What other function in the 744 gives you a hi-low chime to give you the impression that it has the function available in this regard?

I am neither talking about ECL nor about the EFB as you can clearly see.

I am talking about the fact, that the indroduction manual states in  the chapter UPDATE SUPPLEMENT  without making any difference between 744 and 748 :

"As the logon is occurring, the bottom right of the <PREFLIGHT
page will show *CXN SYNC. Once logged in, you will hear a
chime, and an accompanying EICAS message, and the prompt
on the <PREFLIGHT page will also show *DLINK ACT"

 

So I expected a chime sound as everybody else would probably... :)

 

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4 minutes ago, Sekkha said:

I am neither talking about ECL nor about the EFB as you can clearly see.

I know you aren't, but you asserted that a note be added about things that the aircraft does not have.

Note that the update supplement includes references to the ECL and EFB, but you were somehow able to parse that out, despite the lack of a note stating otherwise.

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48 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

I know you aren't, but you asserted that a note be added about things that the aircraft does not have.

Note that the update supplement includes references to the ECL and EFB, but you were somehow able to parse that out, despite the lack of a note stating otherwise.

Pleae note that only the "PMDG 747-8  SUPPLEMENT" talks about those items. 

The UPDATE SUPPLEMENT does not because it adresses obviously common new features for 744 and 748. And here is where the DATA LINK item is discussed.

 

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Boys, Boys, Boys....

It **is already** documented for you!

744 FCOM Chapter 5  and 748 FCOM Chapter 5 each describe the display of the advisory messages associated with the datalink.  You will then deduce from your system knowledge that you should not expect to hear a chime in the 744 because it is being shown as an advisory message, while on the 748 it is a COMM message and carries an accompanying advisory message.

If this wasn't clear to you:  Since you are a good pilot and like to read huge manuals, (:ph34r:) jump to chapter 15 "Warning Systems" and you will find further elucidation for your aviation pleasure!

 

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2 hours ago, rsrandazzo said:

elucidation

Impressive. I haven't seen that word since I was in G-school. ROFL

Grace and Peace, 

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2 hours ago, rsrandazzo said:

You will then deduce from your system knowledge that you should not expect to hear a chime in the 744 because it is being shown as an advisory message, while on the 748 it is a COMM message and carries an accompanying advisory message.

If this wasn't clear to you:  Since you are a good pilot and like to read huge manuals, (:ph34r:) jump to chapter 15 "Warning Systems" and you will find further elucidation for your aviation pleasure!

 

Oh, thanks for your kind words!
But I am afraid I dont really deserve them, because I think I could
hardly be called a pilot, and less a good one.    :)

Actually I have to confess that I never went through the DATA LINK chapter in the FCOM as there was no
simulation of ACARS or other datalink functionality before the update. So after the update I just read the chapter of the introduction manual which explains the new features for both , 744 and 748. And Ok, I just learned that it was maybe naive (and thus not appropriate for a good pilot) to just take as a fact what is stated there and thus expect a chime without digging deeper into the FCOM.

But as I dont want to get called a bad student I had a quick look into these chapters now, and I have honestly to admit that I would not have been able to make this deduction myself! I am even more confused now because I learned on page 5.33.1 that uplinked ATC messages are indeed announced by a low level aural chime in the 744.....So I obviously dont understand what this chime thing is 

You see that also my system knowledge still leaves a lot to desire ..LOL
I will retire thus!

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