Hi, it is only speculation butmaybe the digital aviation crj. http://www.digital-aviation.de/crjsite/index.htmlJan-Paul

I doubt it I didn't see a shot of a CRJ-200 in there only a 700.

>>@wingnut I was wondering why a real airline too. Where is>>tdragger we need answers? :( >>>>@viz Yeah, if that's default for the detailed airports, I'm>>thinking payware sceneries are going to have to be insane in>>detail to get my money.>>He's quite likely busy with his new duty assignment (not FS>related), along with working feverishly alongside the ACES>devs to help out wherever he can!>>I suspect that particularly a/c is one of the payware or>freeware a/c that are being evaluated for FSX compatibility.Thanks Bill. Kinda figured it had to be a outside product of some sort.Did tdragger ever say what his new pet project was? Just curious.

>Hi, >>it is only speculation but>maybe the digital aviation crj. >>http://www.digital-aviation.de/crjsite/index.html>>>>Jan-Paul Thanks for the link have to keep an eye out when this comes out.Looks like they have some incredible detail going into it. I just wonder how close fsx and dx10 and the new hardware will we get to the details they have in their rendered shots.

>Thanks Bill. Kinda figured it had to be a outside product of>some sort.>Did tdragger ever say what his new pet project was? Just>curious.Nope, and it's probable he won't. As you know, ACES isn't just a "one trick pony show," but develop many other titles for MS. I got the impression that his was a lateral move within ACES to one of the other projects up their sleeves.Between having to hire/train his replacement for his "old job," learning his "new job" plus spending countless hours of his "free time" helping out with FSX......I'm not the least bit surprised at his absence! I honestly don't know how ANY of 'em can keep up the pace! ;)I know that long before now I'd have been reduced to a collapsed, quivering pile of gibbering jello myself! *:-*

I think it's cool that FSX is updating the default 737 to an NG. Winglets too.It's possible that it is a third party aircraft as well (PMDG?, I can hope!)Since Pro will include 3 third party aircraft, that will be interesting- We'll have a CR7 this time. AFAIK, the avionics are essentailly Collins Pro Line 4 (the Challenger legacy) So maybe Reality Xp is involved too.

maybe the airbus in FSX is by PMDG? Certainly seems to match the timings.

Regarding the report of "3rd party aircraft" in the Deluxe package, please read this from Paul Lange, one of the ACES bloggers:http://blogs.technet.com/p-12c_pilot/archi.../16/442067.aspx"In the third party support segment we installed several FS2004 aircraft to show that backward compatibility will be supported and also showed some aircraft from Eaglesoft that are already FSX exclusively updated. It seems some of the press coverage has cited we will be including some third party aircraft in the box, so maybe showing these aircraft installed in the play test lab gave that impression. If we are shipping third party aircraft in FSX it's news to me (I don't know everything though, so maybe I'm in for a surprize tomorrow)."

I highly doubt that the G1000 will be fully functional. I fly a G1000 equipped 172 and I'm still finding little nooks and crannies hidden here and there. Not to mention the depth and complexity of the systems involved....

Eaglesoft is on top of it eh!;)Manny

>Eaglesoft is on top of it eh!>>;)>>Manny"In the third party support segment we installed several FS2004 aircraft to show that backward compatibility will be supported and also showed some aircraft from Eaglesoft that are already FSX exclusively updated."Eaglesoft is pleased to provide a few of our aircraft for the Microsoft Aces folks to use.:-)

"...that's just my guess, but I'm not sure if they think your aircraft are in FSX or not.Great job getting us the aircraft though. I know it wasn't easy and you guys are the only ones to manage it! P-12C"

Doesn't surprise me that ES is on top of the game at all. Well Done Ron. :) I hope the 2 Cirrus' are on the list of planes ready to roll in FSX. ;)

>Doesn't surprise me that ES is on top of the game at all.>Well Done Ron. :) I hope the 2 Cirrus' are on the list of>planes ready to roll in FSX. ;)Thanks John, actually the Cirrus SR22 is included in the list of aircraft we provided:-)

>Thanks John, actually the Cirrus SR22 is included in the list>of aircraft we provided:-)Great job guys! Real nice to see some good PR for you all with the upcoming sim!!Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/tfbeta.jpg