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Dell XPS Renegade

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I wonder if this computer is going to be enough? Here's the link:http://www.dell.com/html/us/products/ces/Pretty impressive except I have to carry a dish towel around whenever I read about it to catch the drool!:-hah Can't wait...Take care.John

It is the machine I was going to build. Is it native 64-bit? Does the "Quad NVIDIA SLI" use FOUR 7800's, or TWO? It actually says "Dual 1GB NVIDIA 7800 GF SLI . . ." Gigabytes new nForce4 board has space to DUAL SLI, or 4 separate 7800's. I wonder about the CPU.

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It has FOUR 7800's! Also, they've over clocked the processors to 4.2GHz. I found alot of info on it after I googled it giving all the descriptions. I bet FPS in the 200-300fps with everything maxed even on FSX. This thing doesn't have a price, but it's got to be in the $8-10K range. Heck, maxed out XPS now runs around $5K. They said available in the spring of "06. I'd love to have one though. When they interviewed Michael Dell, he just said it would be VERY EXPENSIVE. Kind of like, if you have to ask, don't.

Just a heads up it does not have 4 7800 graphic cards in it. It has 2 1gb 7800 sli with each having 2 gpu's on each card. That's why its called quad.

And youll still be able to build your own for half the price and blow it away in performance. But I must say the case is noice.

Agree. I've seen a couple price estimates in the US$7000-8000 range. For that kind of money anyone can beat the performance for half the price by bolting similar components together themselves. And, I don't even like the case :-).Doug

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>I bet FPS in the>200-300fps with everything maxed even on FSX.No way - unless FSX is a massive change away from how CPU-limited FS9 is, the speed of the CPU is still going to be the limiting factor for FPS. What you will be able to do with that kind of video power is insane AA levels though...

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Ryan,I doubt the 200-300fps myself, but I do remember reading that FSX was moving away from being CPU bound and placing more emphasis on the GPU. In another thread there was a comment about FSX supporting SLI via the operating system. It seems like FSX is going to "outsource" the tasks rather than try to handle everything itself.Bruce

Here's a note about the XPS. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28865Looks like a PR stunt.It won't pull much over 150+ since it's using a really bottlenecked cpu. Those gpu's get to sit there and picked their fans. Well maybe FEAR will run smooth maxed out.

It may be a PR stunt for Dell, but it certainly seems more than at hoax:http://www.techspot.com/news/19404-gigabyt...otherboard.htmlThe board will only be able to carry Pentium processors using the socket 775. Sources told us that Gigabyte is currently testing the 4-GPU board and is likely to enable two configurations. First, the GA-8N-SLI Quad will be able to work with two Gigabyte 3D1 dual-GPU cards and make an additional three PCI Express slots available. The second option is to use single-GPU SLI graphics card in each of the four slots. This translates to a support of either two x16 or four x8 PCI Express slots.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

>It has FOUR 7800's! Also, they've over clocked the>processors to 4.2GHz. I found alot of info on it after I>googled it giving all the descriptions. I bet FPS in the>200-300fps with everything maxed even on FSX. This thing>doesn't have a price, but it's got to be in the $8-10K range. >Heck, maxed out XPS now runs around $5K. They said available>in the spring of "06. I'd love to have one though. When they>interviewed Michael Dell, he just said it would be VERY>EXPENSIVE. Kind of like, if you have to ask, don't.I'm sorry, but I just have to laugh when I read posts like this where people think it's even remotely possible (or even necessary) for a program like FSX to run at that kind of speed!!As anyone involved in film or motion video production knows, anything higher than 30 FPS is a complete waste!Standard, uncompressed video runs at 30 frames per second. Theatrical films run at 24 frames per second. Why would you want anything that runs smoother than video or film?If you look at the animation in a Level-D simulator, it is only running at 30 FPS... the human eye can't discern anything higher than that!Look at the facts... the graphics engine is drawing a specified number of "frames" every second... so what difference is anything higher than 30 FPS going to make when your eyes can't process anything faster than that?So... if you're thinking that anything higher than 30 FPS is going to be ultra smooth, then you're kidding yourselves. If you really want realism, then concentrate on buying (or building) a system that gives you fluidity of motion at 30 FPS.Spending thousands of dollars on hardware that would supposedly give you anything more than 30 FPS is a complete waste of your hard earned money!Alex

Your logic on FS frames is flawed, film and television frames are interlaced (smoothed). With FS the frames are just that - a single frame with no interpolation to smoothen the transition from frame to frame (motion blur!), to get perfect silky smooth images in FS you need at least 60+ FPS.EDIT: Oh and your wrong about LevelD sims - they run at a much, much higher rate! - I'd say at least 60-100fps. :)

And Alex, you can laugh all you want. How ridiculous a statement is that? Does that make you feel smarter? This thread was not meant to say I was going out and buying one so I could use it with FSX. Only that this is probably the latest technology out there available to anybody with $$. I know you can probably buy a better system at a greatly reduced price. I just thought you guys would like to see the very latest and greatest from CES, that's all. And, whether the computer has 2 GPU's SLI'd to another 2 GPU's vs 4 GPU's total--> come one, I'm sure there's a difference, but the total number is 4, isn't it? :-)I've tried to post here before and it's amazing how a few people just sit around and try to blast anybody that brings up anything. I think I'm going to give up this forum stuff. Count me another newcomer that's bowing out. You guys can argue all you want without me. I'll go back to my real plane and fly it for the best in frame rates! Thanks anyways!Sign meDr. John S. JohnsonLubbock, TX

How much do you think it will cost?Jeff

Jeff

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John,Before you bow out, consider how many people didn't know about this announcement at CES and found it very interesting. I'm one of those people. Without your link, I wouldn't have watched the Dell keynote presentation and discovered all the cool new gadgets that are in development for 2006.So don't let a few people that need to make themselves look good by slamming someone else end your forum postings. This thread has had 481 visits when I wrote this. I'm sure the info you provided to that many readers far outweighs the few people that have intellectual esteem problems.I hope you decide to stick around and and post again.Bruce

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