August 30, 20196 yr Buying unfinished products only feeds this type of business. Hopefully they aren't disappearing like PSS. I feel bad for those who supported them. Richie Walsh
August 30, 20196 yr Buy a beta product, you deserve everything you get. This type of product development has been going on in flight simming for ages. If you've been in the community for longer than 2 years you should, by now, know that just because an end product is promised, doesn't mean you're going to get it. I feel no sympathy for anyone who should know better than to support the shady business practices of a handful of developers who never complete their projects. It only encourages them to continue as they are. /rant AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
August 30, 20196 yr Commercial Member Sorry guys, I am confused... what PSS means? I googled it and a whole bunch of weird stuff came out on the search so can't be that. 4 hours ago, pracines said: Flight simulation needs to become a bigger deal, and if developers are going to start a business, they NEED to allow for these contingencies and have a plan in place for their customers. If not, then don't start the business, or freeware is an option until a responsible plan is possible I agree overall with your post, issue is most of us DLC content providers are very small, part time at the beginning at least, etc. But you are right, most people don't think about business continuity plans, from day one I started I gave all my passwords, source code information, etc. to a trusted person with instructions to contact a well known developer for P3D so things can continue somehow in the event of my sudden death or illness, it was the logical thing to do for me since this is one of the many things I do for a living on my full time job already as I am in charge of the company resilience plans, disaster recovery plans and all offices business continuity planning in terms of IT. So I totally get what you are saying.. But regarding PSS.. I am clueless!!. Regards, Simbol Oficial Website: https://www.FSReborn.com Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/XC82TqvKQ3
August 30, 20196 yr Author 6 hours ago, FrankSalo said: They are responding to comments on their last Facebook post, one stating that one of the team members had open heart surgery some weeks before and the last response a week ago was that they were "working on it" We'll see. It seems strange that they can post on facebook but not on their official support support forum... Scott
August 30, 20196 yr 19 minutes ago, simbol said: But regarding PSS.. I am clueless!!. Edited August 30, 20196 yr by F737NG AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
August 30, 20196 yr Author 34 minutes ago, simbol said: Sorry guys, I am confused... what PSS means? I googled it and a whole bunch of weird stuff came out on the search so can't be that. I agree overall with your post, issue is most of us DLC content providers are very small, part time at the beginning at least, etc. But you are right, most people don't think about business continuity plans, from day one I started I gave all my passwords, source code information, etc. to a trusted person with instructions to contact a well known developer for P3D so things can continue somehow in the event of my sudden death or illness, it was the logical thing to do for me since this is one of the many things I do for a living on my full time job already as I am in charge of the company resilience plans, disaster recovery plans and all offices business continuity planning in terms of IT. So I totally get what you are saying.. But regarding PSS.. I am clueless!!. Regards, Simbol PSS or Phoenix Simulation Software was a "developer" during the FS9 days. They used a licensing method that required their product "phone home " regularly to activate and also charged for liveries. The principal, Graham Waterfield, did a runner to Malta and PSS collapsed leaving paying customers without access to their products. Fast forward to around 2013 and BBS, or Blackbox Simulation Software, "rose from the ashes" with a prologue - mention the word beta in any of their support avenues and you were sure to attract the ire of the developer, in fact any sort of criticism of any their products resulted in tantrums. Edited August 30, 20196 yr by qnh Scott
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