August 30, 20196 yr Support queries unanswered, customers unable to activate purchased aircraft. Scott
August 30, 20196 yr PSS, wow that brings back memories from the old days. Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
August 30, 20196 yr Sitting on a beach in Ibiza no doubt. Oh well, people were warned. System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
August 30, 20196 yr I think that BBS came from PSS. Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
August 30, 20196 yr 23 minutes ago, Jude Bradley said: I think that BBS came from PSS. Oh yes, they sure did. I could say more about Dad and Dave, but I don't wish to breach Avsim TOS System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
August 30, 20196 yr Thats a relief then... Was tempted to buy this the other day just to get an A330 in my hanger Decided against it as no A330 is better than their version!!
August 30, 20196 yr Some people never learn how to run businesses properly. Failed once, failed again. Biting off more than they can chew I recon. Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
August 30, 20196 yr not sure about not activating aircraft. But perhaps this may be premature to jump to those conclusions. The last post on their FB page was 1 week ago saying they are busy working on it. Whether its a lie and procrastination is anyones guess. They are up against AS so you would think they would want to be sure to complete this and get ahead of the game. Then again we are waiting .90 and version 1.0 wont be for another 3-5 years. CYVR LSZH I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS z690 ROG STRIX Gaming RTX 4080 Super,
August 30, 20196 yr Author 1 hour ago, HighTowers said: not sure about not activating aircraft. But perhaps this may be premature to jump to those conclusions. The last post on their FB page was 1 week ago saying they are busy working on it. Whether its a lie and procrastination is anyones guess. They are up against AS so you would think they would want to be sure to complete this and get ahead of the game. Then again we are waiting .90 and version 1.0 wont be for another 3-5 years. Check their “client center” plenty of users are asking for support with no response. Scott
August 30, 20196 yr Keep in mind they "released" their unfinished product back in 2013 (I think so). 6 years later it's still not finished. We switched multiple simulators in the meantime :D. Wait for the Aerosoft A330 or FSLabs A330 (which might be early released than BBS A330 v1). Sorry for the hard word but BBS is just scam. Point. They just make promises and that's it. The product is not usable. We expect quality and this is something BBS can't deliver (at least right now).
August 30, 20196 yr I get the idea that the plaudits will continue to flood in. I am getting the popcorn out!
August 30, 20196 yr I got their widebody product at a sale. I reckoned that for the price it was an acceptable risk to take - and I'm glad I didn't spend more on it at the time. I installed it and did one flight, but was rather put off by it. Mostly in relation to the button click sounds, the rather awkward ground handling, the strange 'bounce' upon landing while having pressure on the stick (this is supposedly a real thing, though), the incorrect modeling of the VC (looks to be much improved in v0.90), the very incomplete FMGC... I've been waiting for v0.90 ever since. The screenshots they post here and there look promising, but it means nothing until it's on my computer. I will say that the product shows promise, but only time will tell if it will eventually deliver. Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
August 30, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, qnh said: Check their “client center” plenty of users are asking for support with no response. They are responding to comments on their last Facebook post, one stating that one of the team members had open heart surgery some weeks before and the last response a week ago was that they were "working on it" We'll see.
August 30, 20196 yr What bothers me most is that unaware/new flight simmers potentially suffer the consequences. I know there are easy ways to "shun" companies, and it has been done in the past (Airiane comes to mind - I know for different reasons). For the life of me I cannot understand why PSS/BB has not been "officially" shunned. BB should have been shot down from the very beginning, unless they kept the same name (PSS) and restored users ability to get products they paid for FIRST. If they did things the right way they would likely be very successful, because their PSS Airbus series was quite nice in its day. Until they do the right thing, I cannot hope the best for BB (I wish I could!). It just does not seem like "hard work", and "customers matter" is a part of their vocabulary or mindset. Also in light of this: This community way too often allows for developers (or their family) illnesses to not just throw a wrench into the mixer (acceptable/totally understandable), but to actually cast the mixer into a black hole! If all/most companies in the world did this, world chaos would result. There are practical solutions to avoid the black hole for customers sake. But its like some developers "turn into doctors" who are in constant surgery for years, or they simply will not sell the code/business when they get cancer and are dying. There is a responsibility that has been largely ignored in this community, and its not right. The fact is, people get hurt, get old, cancer, accidents, family gets sick --- these are all realities; contingencies that seem to be overlooked. And for the sake of a "sudden love" for other peoples families and loved ones we just allow for customers to be overlooked, and even ignored for months/years/forever. The result is a "lack of love" for consumers. Flight simulation needs to become a bigger deal, and if developers are going to start a business, they NEED to allow for these contingencies and have a plan in place for their customers. If not, then don't start the business, or freeware is an option until a responsible plan is possible. Please don't think that I don't care about developers/illnesses, its just that I (we all have to) care for flight simming consumers too. We cannot stop illnesses/death from happening, but we can have a back up (flight) plan when they do. We all grow old and eventually die, but flight simming (more specifically, a wonderful add-on) does not have to die.
August 30, 20196 yr The term "Caveat Emptor" comes to mind. A number of these so-called "companies" are actually one or two "developers" looking to make a quick buck off the flightsim community. They make big promises and create pretty screenshots and videos, release an unfinished or amateurish product with promises to release regular updates and improvements, and then disappear. The only way to really stop this is to 1)be skeptical and don't buy any product unless you can confirm from multiple sources that it is of good quality, and/or 2)start suing them, which costs a lot of money but would set a good example for the rest of the developer community when the plaintiffs win the case and the "company" has to start issuing refunds. Dave Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
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