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Hi all,

I think there is a lot of confusion on Download vs Streaming here. Some services can stream a movie or a game to your computer. In both cases, all is sent through the connexion is 30 or 60 1080p or 1440p photo. For a movie, no big deal. For a game, that means some high end computers are running at the streaming service to actually run the game, and you are just looking at the result.

Sending only the scenery will NOT be easier. MS will need to send A LOT of high resolution ortho pictures that your computer will process to draw the scenery. That means A LOT more data than just streaming screens like a movie.

Simple test : compare a full resolution RAW screenshot of your favorite sim, with all the data needed to draw this screen : textures and model of the cockpit, mesh, ortho scenery just for what's in sight, flight model, 3D objects visibles, etc... All these data will weight a hundred times more than the screenshot... That's the difference between "streaming" data for the game in your computer to process, and actually streaming the game.

And I don't think MS will kindly run thouhands of computers to stream the game to every user... Or it will cost us 40$ a month just to use the base sim...

Best regards,

Tom

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1 hour ago, n666eo said:

Sending only the scenery will NOT be easier. MS will need to send A LOT of high resolution ortho pictures that your computer will process to draw the scenery. That means A LOT more data than just streaming screens like a movie.

But not all the textures need to be streamed at every frame. Only the additional ones needed while the aircraft flies in new areas. And the bandwidth would depend on aircraft speed and altitude. I made some hypothetical calculations in another thread in this forum.

Streaming only the video would require a low ping (I'd say less than 30ms delay, so less than 15ms+15ms ping), otherwise there would be an unacceptable input lag.

Also, VR requires very low input lag, will it be feasible with a movie-streamed game?

 

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4 hours ago, n666eo said:

MS will need to send A LOT of high resolution ortho pictures that your computer will process to draw the scenery. That means A LOT more data than just streaming screens like a movie.

Unless it's already somehow been processed at the server end. Even then, it'll probably still be more than a movie (but less than streaming a full game).

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Interesting that the signup survey had questions on your download speed and data caps.  Well, maybe that'll tell Microsoft something useful.

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56 minutes ago, n4gix said:

I just ran www.speedtest.net/ here and was amazed at my d/l u/l speeds:

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23 hours ago, SamYeager said:

Turns green with envy!

Unfortunately, I'll have to replace two routers in my home/office network since they are limited to 100 Mbps. My main sim computer only gets 98.7 Mbps... :unsure:

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