October 16, 20196 yr Hello! I’m gonna talk about choosing the yoke for simulation. Today’s fight: CH Products Eclipse Vs Honeycomb Aeronautical. CH Eclipse: Pluses: Good size (a little smaller than Honeycomb) A lot of useless buttons 😁 Good price for it’s quality (180$) Removable throttle quadrant (that’s good cause I’m using one already) 6 axes (ailerons, elevators, rudder, throttle, prop control and mixture) You don’t have to be very strong or accurate to fly (I mean you might feel good when using it) Nice design Nice quality Compact. Doesn’t require a lot of space on your table. Always in stock everywhere! Minuses: First of all, I want to note these rudder pedals. They’re quite useless for me. They’re not so comfortable to use and i’d recommend to use normal rudder pedals for your legs. Really a lot of buttons, maybe it’s not so bad, but well, I don’t use them. That’s all! Now let’s talk about Honeycomb. Honeycomb Aeronautical Yoke: Pluses: Solid looking, coolest design Not a lot of buttons, but you have Master switch, avionics and lights with fuel pump switch (just like c172) You have to be accurate when flying, every your movement causes a strong aircraft movement (I love to fly without caring about every yoke movement) But it’s still a plus for some people Compact too, doesn’t require a lot of space You will really love it Really really good price for this product (200$) High quality Really new Minuses: You really have to be accurate when flying it ITS OUT OF STOCK EVERYWHERE. That’s why I’m waiting for so long And that’s all! They have different pluses and minuses (and some same) so, IMHO, I’ll give: CH Eclipse: 8/10 Honeycomb 8/10 But that’s only my option. If you’re choosing between them, if you live in North America or you just can wait and you’re accurate, get Honeycomb. If you can’t wait and you’re not accurate, get CH Eclipse. Thank you for reading this! I spent a lot of time to make it. And don’t forget, everything I said was only in my option. -Tash
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October 17, 20196 yr Moderator @TasheY, for those prepared to spend more the Fulcrum looks very good. Four inches of elevator travel compared to two with the Honeycomb. And hall-effect sensors throughout. Available before Christmas. https://www.fulcrumsim.com/ Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
October 17, 20196 yr You can adjust the sensitivity curve to each axis. So to sensitive to use really isn't a negative. You just happened to play with a setup that wasn't setup to your liking. Brian Thibodeaux | B747-400/8, C-130 Flight Engineer, CFI, Type Rated: BE190, DC-9 (MD-80), B747-400 My Liveries
October 19, 20196 yr On 10/17/2019 at 12:23 PM, Ray Proudfoot said: Fulcrum looks very good Build quality on this looks really good. Let's see how they come in on price. Do you know if they are planning on any US distributors? Jose A. Core Components: AMD Ryzen7 7700X - G.Skill FlareX 32 GB DDR5 6000 CL36 (XMP) - Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX - Asus ROG Strix RTX3060 12gb Storage: WD Black SN750 NVMe 1TB - AData sx8200 Pro NVMe 1TB - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB - Samsung 870 EVO 1TB WIN11 - P3D v.5.3 HF2 - XPLANE 11 - MSFS
October 19, 20196 yr Moderator 18 minutes ago, jalbino59 said: Build quality on this looks really good. Let's see how they come in on price. Do you know if they are planning on any US distributors? It is. Fulcrum visited our monthly meeting near Manchester Airport today with the yoke. Anticipated price is 429 GBP inc 20% VAT but obviously that is not applicable for overseas buyers. Replace that with your own state taxes and import duty. No overseas distributors are planned. Shipping direct from the UK. Chris advised he will reduce the depth of the case by approx 1.5” (37mm). Watch https://www.fulcrumsim.com/ early next week for more details. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
October 19, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said: No overseas distributors are planned. Shipping direct from the UK. Chris advised he will reduce the depth of the case by approx 1.5” (37mm). Watch https://www.fulcrumsim.com/ early next week for more details. Ray - Approx. 700usd with shipping and insurance at todays exchange. Not bad if the quality is there. To the OP - Sorry for hijacking the thread, I couldn't resist asking. Jose A. Core Components: AMD Ryzen7 7700X - G.Skill FlareX 32 GB DDR5 6000 CL36 (XMP) - Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX - Asus ROG Strix RTX3060 12gb Storage: WD Black SN750 NVMe 1TB - AData sx8200 Pro NVMe 1TB - Samsung 860 EVO 500GB - Samsung 870 EVO 1TB WIN11 - P3D v.5.3 HF2 - XPLANE 11 - MSFS
October 19, 20196 yr Moderator 50 minutes ago, jalbino59 said: Ray - Approx. 700usd with shipping and insurance at todays exchange. Not bad if the quality is there. To the OP - Sorry for hijacking the thread, I couldn't resist asking. @jalbino59, I hadn’t appreciated this wasn’t the Fulcrum topic so apologies for posting here. Please ask any more questions on that topic. I can assure you the quality is most definitely there. 👍 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
October 24, 20196 yr Just purchased and installed the Honeycomb yoke. Very impressed so far. Very sturdy, good tension, and I love the suction mount to my desk. Best yoke I've had. Prior, I had been using the Saitek X52, not bad either, but the suction mounts were not very tight... John
October 24, 20196 yr I'm anxious to hear more from users. Hats off to those who took the bold step of faith with this new frontier. Vic green
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