March 2, 20206 yr Hi all, I recently invested in an overhauled rig for P3D and was super excited to be running full tilt graphics. However, I am a few months in and my performance has felt like it has dropped significantly. I've looked everywhere at threads to try and rectify this situation but for the life of me I can't figure it out. I am getting about 20 FPS running ORBX LOWI, Global, FsLabs A320, and ActiveSky. I feel like this should be a piece of cake for my PC but for some reason it isn't. Can anyone please offer some advice? Thatcher Burns i7-9700k Coffee Lake OC to 5Ghz EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER BLACK GAMING ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming LGA 1151 Z390 G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB DDR4 3600 Edited March 2, 20206 yr by gamers22 Thatcher Burns
March 2, 20206 yr For start you should at least tell us about your PC specs. Sorry, didn't know I have to press the button. Edited March 2, 20206 yr by Tomaz Drnovsek Tomaz Drnovsek My FSX Videos My AVSIM Gallery
March 2, 20206 yr Your specs are great, way better than mine and I probably get the same fps. What are your P3D settings?
March 2, 20206 yr Author 6 hours ago, flightskyc said: Your specs are great, way better than mine and I probably get the same fps. What are your P3D settings? I did a few minor tweaks this morning and my fps was slightly better between 25-30 but I still feel as though something is causing a bottleneck. Here are my current settings for P3D: [/img][/url]Display [/img][/url]World [/img][/url]Lighting [/img][/url]Weather Thatcher Burns
March 3, 20206 yr 7 hours ago, TBurns22 said: I did a few minor tweaks this morning and my fps was slightly better between 25-30 but I still feel as though something is causing a bottleneck. Here are my current settings for P3D: [/img][/url]Display [/img][/url]World [/img][/url]Lighting [/img][/url]Weather All of those image links require logging into a Flickr account. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 3, 20206 yr Author 19 hours ago, w6kd said: All of those image links require logging into a Flickr account. My apologies, I'm still a little green on this forum. Here's another attempt: Thatcher Burns
March 3, 20206 yr I would reduce the shadows and cloud draw distance. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
March 3, 20206 yr Author 5 minutes ago, micstatic said: I would reduce the shadows and cloud draw distance. I shouldn't have to though. People who have lower end rigs are running higher settings and seeing better FPS than I am. The whole reason I want to fix this is because I was reading through threads on here where people are running P3D's photoreal scenery and running it very well with lower end systems. I'm trying to figure out my bottleneck Thatcher Burns
March 3, 20206 yr Author I will say I am running P3D on an older HDD, not my newer M.2 PCIe SSD. Could this contribute to low frames? I installed the PCIe SSD after P3D was installed and did not want to go through the process of reinstalling. Is it time I do that? Edited March 3, 20206 yr by TBurns22 Thatcher Burns
March 3, 20206 yr I could be wrong. But I thought that the SSD speed increases are mostly from loading times not FPS. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
March 3, 20206 yr Author Running a test with FsLabs A320 at ORBX LOWI I am running 33-35% CPU and 37-40% GPU with internal FPS limited to 30 in P3D. However, I am running between 23-27 FPS so the limiter isn't really even doing anything. Something is definitely bottlenecking my P3D and I cannot figure out what for the life of me. I will say that AURA Synce on my MOBO was using 15-20% of my CPU resources!!!! I changed a few settings and now its .5%. Note I am running AIG Ai traffic at 30% but turning it off didn't really do much for me. Edited March 3, 20206 yr by TBurns22 Thatcher Burns
March 3, 20206 yr 50 minutes ago, TBurns22 said: FPS limited to 30 in P3D. However, I am running between 23-27 FPS so the limiter isn't really even doing anything. Actually, it is. Disable the limier and see FPS go above 30. When internal limiter is applied then 33% of CPU time goes to terrain loading. This is necessary when you go high and fast, so's to avoid blurries. But when you are lower and slower, then you can have another graphic profile that you can switch to so it wouldn't have limiter enabled. This will give you those precious frames around terminal area. Are you experiencing low performance on other places as well. Did you previously had better performance at Innsbruck, or is it a new airport for you and you are only seeing this kind of behavior over there? Edited March 3, 20206 yr by Evros well why not?
March 3, 20206 yr Road & boat traffic? Weather (number of layers, conditions)? Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 4, 20206 yr Author 1 hour ago, Evros said: Actually, it is. Disable the limier and see FPS go above 30. When internal limiter is applied then 33% of CPU time goes to terrain loading. This is necessary when you go high and fast, so's to avoid blurries. But when you are lower and slower, then you can have another graphic profile that you can switch to so it wouldn't have limiter enabled. This will give you those precious frames around terminal area. Are you experiencing low performance on other places as well. Did you previously had better performance at Innsbruck, or is it a new airport for you and you are only seeing this kind of behavior over there? I have previously had better performance at Innsbruck, or at least it really appeared that way. I tried LSZH (Aerosoft Zurich) and got around 30 frames on unlimited frame setting. This is good but when looking at my task manager my cpu is at 35% and GPU is around 25%. I kept inching sliders to the right and the frames stayed basically steady but CPU usage didn't budge. Something isn't adding up. 33 minutes ago, w6kd said: Road & boat traffic? Weather (number of layers, conditions)? No road or boat traffic. Usually for weather I'm using ActiveSky weather engine with REX cloud textures. Have used once during the tests and no noteworthy impact on performance. Edited March 4, 20206 yr by TBurns22 Thatcher Burns
March 4, 20206 yr Everyone say that is is not more taken in account with P3D but, you can increase a little bit your fps by adding this in the Prepar3D.cfg. [BUFFERPOOLS] UsePools=0 It is not the source of your problem but believe me, it works!
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