My problem with head movement in sims isn’t that head movement isn’t realistic, it is.  But your eyes and head are not a camera, they compensate for the shake so in most cases IRL it really does not effect your vision so much.  Head movement is literally the first thing I turn way down in racing sims for example.

True, but without other feedback when you are sat at your computer, it does help to visually convey that which you cannot feel. A Buttkicker on your seat would be a more 'realistic' means to simulate it, but they cost a few quid.

The team have done an amazing job with not only the depiction of the weather, but the customization through the user interface. Truly one of the highlights of the sim. This is one reason I am very optimistic other aspects of the sim that are that are rough around the edges will eventually be polished quite nicely. 

Wow!

Cheers

bs 

28 minutes ago, Chock said:

With regard to the head shaking, if you've never flown a light aircraft in those kind of conditions, I can assure you that you get thrown about all over the place when the updrafts and downdrafts hit you, and there is plenty of head movement as a result of it. In fact, on the occasion I related above, it was the fact that I felt the right wing lift when I was at the point where I was literally looking up at houses on the surrounding hills as I was grimly looking for a field I might make a forced landing into, which enabled me to know that was an updraft on the edge of the storm cell, so I could throw the thing into a steep right turn and start circling in that area to get me some altitude so I could make it back to the airfield.

Picture this if you've never experienced it: Imagine someone is behind your computer chair and they have hold of the backrest with both their hands and are shaking it backwards and forwards whilst occasionally booting the underneath of your seat with their size nines. That is what it feels like in a light aeroplane in those kind of conditions and the canopy steams up to the point where you have to settle for opening the DV panel and getting your left side soaked with rain. And whilst that is going on, you are aware that one lightning strike on your foam-filled GRP wings will probably make the aeroplane disintegrate as the moisture in the foam inside the wings expands at supersonic speeds into steam when it superheats the moisture in the foam, much like how tree sap makes trees explode when they are struck by lightning.

That had actually happened to the same type I was flying on that day a couple of weeks before I was in that storm, and the two people in that aeroplane didn't even need to open the canopy or unstrap in order to bail out, the plane literally came apart around them as the lightning blew it apart, so all they had to do was pull the ripcord! Both people survived. One guy had a burst eardrum, the other broke his leg when he landed on a garage roof.

Omg, I'd love to sit down and listen to this story over a beer 😄

3 hours ago, joec63 said:

 

 

That's not the plane moving. It's simulating the pilots head movement (camera shake) 

Nope, you can cleary see the planes movement i am talking about.

3 hours ago, Martin Byrde said:

it's a default plane, we need to wait for payware to get a more realistic Sim flying experience

Am i the only one thinking that "Its a default plane..." should not be the argument for everything that isn't as shiny as all the previews would like to make us think? For all the tremendous work they have put into the new sim, i'd expect something important as the feeling of a planes intertia to work/look properly.

3 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Nope, you can cleary see the planes movement i am talking about.

You will see on the 18th if you get it. 

Hey look, a video of the amazing weather system...

Avsim users spend the rest of the thread talking about flight dynamics....again. 😉

33 minutes ago, snglecoil said:

The team have done an amazing job with not only the depiction of the weather, but the customization through the user interface. Truly one of the highlights of the sim. This is one reason I am very optimistic other aspects of the sim that are that are rough around the edges will eventually be polished quite nicely. 

To get back on topic, I agree the weather depiction looks amazing and the user interface is quite handy as well. It still lacks an essential feature in its current state though:

If you change the time and date apparently only the position of the sun and thus the lighting changes, but the weather stays the same. It remains the live weather from the current real world time which will be completely unrealistic if you changed the time of day or the time of year in the sim. So you are forced to bother with manually changing the weather from the user interface which not only takes some effort but also takes away from the immersion a lot. I don't like flying with scripted weather I created myself, I'd rather have the variety and imponderability of real world weather - but realistically according to the time of day and time of year I chose in-sim.

What I want to see is the weather changing according to real world historic weather data in sync with the in-sim time and date. We have that in P3D with Active Sky for years and I use it all the time.

Given that Meteoblue offers a large archive of historic weather data I still can't believe MSFS will come without historic weather. I still hope it's just a limitation of the Alpha / Beta.

 

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by RALF9636

4 minutes ago, snglecoil said:

Hey look, a video of the amazing weather system...

Avsim users spend the rest of the thread talking about flight dynamics....again. 😉

Hey look, a video showing how amazing everything looks!

Everybody is instantly getting blind for small but important details. But hey, at least while paused you get a great looking screenshot!

5 hours ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Absolutely agree. In my 20+ Years of real world flying i have never seen an aircraft moving that "inertialess". It almost looks like the video is fast forwarded.

This is definately something they have to work on.

You fly small planes in storms and have experienced this?

5 hours ago, ThomseN_inc said:

 

 

Edited August 4, 20205 yr by Joyal
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6 minutes ago, Joyal said:

You fly small planes in storms and have experienced this?

No because the planes i use to fly have proper inertia effects.

I was watching this at 5:15 Mark. I can't tell what different between that and the game.