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Install question for HDD and SSD experts

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I have an SSD and the most I can strip away from windows 10 leaves only 190 gigs (The SSD has only 222 gigs total space). My question is, that given I need the published 150 gigs to install the super deluxe edition (I can probably use a different HDD for addons etc) am I going to get SSD performance loss or complications with not much left on the drive?

My second question: Is there a huge difference in loading scenery/textures/aircraft between an SSD and HDD? I didn't notice that much difference between P3d on a conventional drive and an SSD except that the initial start up was a bit slower on the HDD.

Edited by robert young

Robert Young - retired full time developer - see my Nexus Mod Page and my GitHub Mod page

I would say that installation and initial loading times can be significantly longer when installed to HDD. When flying, you shouldn't notice much difference because all my NVMe drives just idle along when all is loaded. Can't run any tests though as I don't have anything else but NVMe in my desktop.

28 minutes ago, robert young said:

I have an SSD and the most I can strip away from windows 10 leaves only 190 gigs (The SSD has only 222 gigs total space). My question is, that given I need the published 150 gigs to install the super deluxe edition (I can probably use a different HDD for addons etc) am I going to get SSD performance loss or complications with not much left on the drive?

The simulator takes up 127GB of space. In this case your SSD would be 70% full, and you will be fine as long as it's a decent one and in good shape already. I would avoid this procedure only if it's a cheaper SATA drive without DRAM and/or a weak controller.

I am going to be using a dedicated 500 GB 860 EVO for MSFS, I am curious how quickly it fills up

Matthew Kane

I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me 

5 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

SSDs are a good price right now, and I would recommend investing in a dedicated 500 GB SATA SSD, like a Samsung evo.

https://www.newegg.ca/samsung-860-evo-series-500gb/p/N82E16820147674

That price is a joke for a 500GB SATA drive. For a little more you can get a Western Digital Blue 3D or Crucial MX500 at 1TB, which are pretty much just as good.

17 minutes ago, ChaoticBeauty said:

That price is a joke for a 500GB SATA drive. For a little more you can get a Western Digital Blue 3D or Crucial MX500 at 1TB, which are pretty much just as good.

All depends on what country you are in, that was a Canadian website and that price $118.98 Canadian works out to about $5 US Dollars 🤣

Matthew Kane

I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me 

1 minute ago, Matthew Kane said:

All depends on what country you are in, that was a Canadian website and that price $118.98 Canadian works out to about $5 US Dollars 🤣

If Newegg didn't prompt me about the Canadian website not being available in the EU I wouldn't have noticed and I'd be even more outraged at that price. Still though, converting CAD to USD the Samsung 860 EVO comes at about $90, while the Western Digital Blue 3D recommended right below is at $62, which seems to match the general prices.

Overall though, Samsung SSDs are just not worth it unless you really need fast mixed workloads, and it's too bad so many people are springing for the 970 EVO Plus when they could save over 50% of the price and put it towards another component that would actually make a difference in performance. It's even worse with the 860 EVO when there are alternatives performing literally the same for a lot less.

SATA SSD's can give you a decent bump in speed from a traditional HDD, but you are still held back a bit by the pipeline.  if your system can do an m.2 pcie nvme SSD, those will be much faster.  Prices are still a bit steep, but much better than they used to be.  I've got a pair of 2TB m.2 ssd's in my rig for about 250 each. (USD)

Edited by ShawnG

23 minutes ago, ChaoticBeauty said:

If Newegg didn't prompt me about the Canadian website not being available in the EU I wouldn't have noticed and I'd be even more outraged at that price. Still though, converting CAD to USD the Samsung 860 EVO comes at about $90, while the Western Digital Blue 3D recommended right below is at $62, which seems to match the general prices.

Overall though, Samsung SSDs are just not worth it unless you really need fast mixed workloads, and it's too bad so many people are springing for the 970 EVO Plus when they could save over 50% of the price and put it towards another component that would actually make a difference in performance. It's even worse with the 860 EVO when there are alternatives performing literally the same for a lot less.

Samsung SSD was my go to drive about 5 years ago, the tech evolves so quickly they are no longer the leaders

I have a few kicking around now from over the years and I abuse them

Edited by Matthew Kane

Matthew Kane

I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me 

30 minutes ago, ShawnG said:

SATA SSD's can give you a decent bump in speed from a traditional HDD, but you are still held back a bit by the pipeline.  if your system can do an m.2 pcie nvme SSD, those will be much faster.  Prices are still a bit steep, but much better than they used to be.  I've got a pair of 2TB m.2 ssd's in my rig for about 250 each. (USD)

In gaming workloads the advantage is much, much smaller than what the theoretical speeds suggest and rather negligible compared to SATA, but with the possibility of this changing because of the new consoles, it might be worth getting a budget NVME drive which nowadays are priced much closer to their SATA counterparts. The Western Digital Blue SN550 and the Kingston A2000 are especially worth looking at.

It is expected that memory prices will continue to remain reasonable until Q1 2021. Earlier this year it was being predicted that memory prices would shoot up during 2020, but an unexpectedly low smartphone demand prevented this.

8 minutes ago, Matthew Kane said:

Samsung SSD was my go to drive about 5 years ago, the tech evolves so quickly they are no longer the leaders

I have a few kicking around now from over the years and I abuse them

To be precise, Samsung are still leading with the 970 EVO Plus being cream of the crop for consumer systems (and the upcoming 980 series reclaiming the PCIe 4.0 speed crown), but nowadays you can get NVME SSDs that perform really closely (with an unnoticeable impact in consumer workloads) with over 50% savings, making it lose its shine. The Western Digital Black SN750, ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro, Silicon Power P34A80 and Sabrent Rocket are excellent choices for those who want higher speeds without spending too much.

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