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Observations Moving from i7 7700k to i9 10900k

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Now that my new build is up and running I thought I'd post my initial observations:

- As a quick and dirty OC, I used the ASUS built in AI overclock tool.  It set me at 5.1 on all cores

- In MSFS the recommendation is now for Ultra preset, up from high

- On ultra I did three test flights:

- ORBX KORS: FPS were in the high 60's and smooth.  Previously on high I was getting high 50's low 60's smooth

- CYTZ/Downtown Toronto: FPS were in the mid 40's to low 50's, smooth

- Torture test time, KLGA and overflying Manhattan: FPS were low 40's and smooth.

CPU temps were in the mid 50's, "CPU Package" Temps were 67-68.  I'm not sure what the difference is between these two or which I should be paying attention to?

Overall I'm quite happy with the boost in performance I've gotten through this upgrade.  It does seem like I may have a bit more headroom for an additional overclock so perhaps I've done well in the silicon lottery.

Now time to go fire up the FSLabs A320 at Toronto Pearson and see how that performs.

Dave

Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU

2 hours ago, regis9 said:

CPU temps were in the mid 50's, "CPU Package" Temps were 67-68.  I'm not sure what the difference is between these two or which I should be paying attention to?

CPU temps are your core temps. CPU Package Temp is the temp of the lid of the CPU where it interfaces with the CPU cooler. The important numbers are the CPU core temps.

...jim

ASUS Prime Z790-E, Intel i9 13900K, 32Gb DDR5 Ram, Nvidia 3090 24Gb, Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500 GB and 1 TB, Samsung Odyssey G9 Ultrawide 49" G-SYNC Monitor.

6 hours ago, JimBrown said:

CPU temps are your core temps. CPU Package Temp is the temp of the lid of the CPU where it interfaces with the CPU cooler. The important numbers are the CPU core temps.

...jim

 

"CPU temps are your core temps."

No... CPU temp is either a sensor on the motherboard, often inside the actual socket, or from a CPU internal Digital Thermal Sensor. 

 

"CPU Package Temp is the temp of the lid of the CPU where it interfaces with the CPU cooler."

No... Package Temp is an average value of the hottest sensor in the entire CPU package. 

You are getting mixed up with "TCase" which is the temperature at the Integrated Heat Spreader.

 

Core temps are indeed the temps to be concerned with. And if you use a software like RealTemp or CoreTemp or Hardware Monitor the core temps will be labelled as that. 

There are numerous sensors in a CPU.

 

 

 

9 hours ago, regis9 said:

 

CPU temps were in the mid 50's, "CPU Package" Temps were 67-68.  I'm not sure what the difference is between these two or which I should be paying attention to?

 

 

Don't pay attention to "CPU Temp" Pay attention to each individual core temp which can be measured in software like RealTemp, CoreTemp, Hardware info, Hardware Monitor.

Asus Software usually tells you "TCase" which is usually lower than the individual core temperatures. So important top look at the temperature of each core. In addition, look at TJ Max. TJ Max is the maximum temp before the CPU starts to throttle back and ultimately shut down to avoid damage. 

I use RealTemp and HW Monitor. 

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Thanks!

Dave

Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU

I too upgraded to i9-10900 CPU it has 10 cores with HT. 

My old system had win 7 and I could see how each thread is being used....

like this Determine the Number of Cores in Your CPU

How do I see that in Win 10. Core by core, thread by thread the utilization?

Thanks

Manny

Manny

Beta tester for SIMStarter 

13 minutes ago, Manny said:

I too upgraded to i9-10900 CPU it has 10 cores with HT. 

My old system had win 7 and I could see how each thread is being used....

like this Determine the Number of Cores in Your CPU

How do I see that in Win 10. Core by core, thread by thread the utilization?

Thanks

Manny

In Task Manager open tab performance then at the bottom open Resource Monitor.

 

Raymond Fry.

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Thanks G-RFRY

I have to select "Logical processors"  too.

https://ibb.co/SNVqVbJ

0-19 cores, Core 19 is being used the most. Hmmm...

 

Edited by Manny

Manny

Beta tester for SIMStarter 

On 8/31/2020 at 3:19 PM, Manny said:

Thanks G-RFRY

I have to select "Logical processors"  too.

https://ibb.co/SNVqVbJ

0-19 cores, Core 19 is being used the most. Hmmm...

 

I think it's important to pay attention to the terminology w/r/t cores and logical processors.

A "core" is a physical processing unit. 

The 10900K has 10 cores, and those function as 10-20 logical processing units (LPs), with two LPs per HT-enabled physical core and one per HT-disabled core.

Also, the performance display does not show threads, it shows LP utilization.  There are usually hundreds of program threads running and being swapped in and out across the various LPs at any given time.

 

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Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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