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My home airport is missing.

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I was a bit disappointed that my local airport, F45, North Palm Beach County airport does not exist on MSFS.  It is a busy relief airport for KPBI and quite busy with tourists.  As I fly over it, since I can navigate their visually, I see outlines of the runways and taxiways but that's it.  I'm wondering if it was an oversight or if it will be included in a future update.  

6 minutes ago, tommygavin2 said:

I was a bit disappointed that my local airport, F45, North Palm Beach County airport does not exist on MSFS.  It is a busy relief airport for KPBI and quite busy with tourists.  As I fly over it, since I can navigate their visually, I see outlines of the runways and taxiways but that's it.  I'm wondering if it was an oversight or if it will be included in a future update.  

I have much the same here in Eastern Maryland.  My local airport, KESN in Easton, looks like it is missing scenery objects perhaps from a missing or yet to be provided library file.  The building locations appear, but are flattened and obscure.  There is a control tower and one comm radio antenna.  I noted that at another airport, KIGQ, Lansing, Illinois, some of the buildings are there but others are likewise flattened.

Also, I am today either flying to or overflying KIPT, Williamsport, Pa. in the 172 w/GNS gauges.  There are no instrument approaches provided in the database.  I previously noted that KUMP in Indianapolis, In., only shows one of four published approaches.

FWIW, though the buildings are missing for KESN, all of the published approaches are in the G1000 database.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
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Why not turn on developer mode and make it yourself? It's not too hard if you watch a tutorial video on how to do it. All you are doing it plonking a few things from a library over the marks on the ground.

Edited by Chock

Alan Bradbury

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6 minutes ago, fppilot said:

The building locations appear, but are flattened and obscure.  There is a control tower and one comm radio antenna.

The "flattened" buildings are generated by the satellite imagery of the area.  As you mentioned, the development team did not add the additional buildings in that area.  You can submit a bug report to them asking for the missing buildings to be included.  As far as F45 not being included, it might be an oversight.  Of course it will appear on the satellite imagery, but the developers will have to actually add an airport object at that area.  Again, I would suggest opening a bug report.  

3 minutes ago, Chock said:

All you are doing it plonking a few things from a library over the marks on the ground.

Much simpler than what we had to do in FS2002.  You don't even need flatten commands anymore.

 

7 hours ago, wthomas33065 said:

You can submit a bug report to them asking for the missing buildings to be included.

Did so 10 days ago.  Automated acknowledgement but nothing since.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

7 hours ago, Chock said:

Why not turn on developer mode and make it yourself? It's not too hard if you watch a tutorial video on how to do it. All you are doing it plonking a few things from a library over the marks on the ground.

I'm really trying to imagine any other product where something is missing and the answer is "hey, make it yourself".

Imagine your phone missing a volume button and somebody actually telling you "why not just spend time on this product you paid money for and doing it yourself?"

What even is this community?

7 hours ago, tommygavin2 said:

I was a bit disappointed that my local airport, F45, North Palm Beach County airport does not exist on MSFS.  It is a busy relief airport for KPBI and quite busy with tourists.  As I fly over it, since I can navigate their visually, I see outlines of the runways and taxiways but that's it.  I'm wondering if it was an oversight or if it will be included in a future update.  

some even bigger airports are missing (EDDS Stuttgart, is the sixth busiest airport in Germany with 11,832,634 passengers having passed through its doors in 2018)

until the airport is installed one day  you have the possibility to try over 30000 other airports in the meantime 😁

 

Makes me wonder. KESN is in Orbx's freeware world airports for FSX/P3D.  Do you think.....

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

36 minutes ago, langly said:

I'm really trying to imagine any other product where something is missing and the answer is "hey, make it yourself".

Imagine your phone missing a volume button and somebody actually telling you "why not just spend time on this product you paid money for and doing it yourself?"

What even is this community?

As an analogy, that is so far wide of the mark it's preposterous.

I was not talking about a fixing a 'missing feature' which somehow makes the product unusable, I was talking about adding a feature which allows you to get more involved and invested in your interests, by using another built-in feature of the software which is specifically designed for that purpose, and to help improve the community which you are evidently so keen to have a pop at. If your exemplary phone had a built in feature to allow you to create additional buttons; your analogy would make sense, instead of it being idiotic.

I didn't say it was the answer, I suggested it was something the OP could do, for fun, and maybe as a challenge to do something new they've perhaps never tried before. You remember fun don't you? It was that thing you used to recognise before you stopped bothering to interpret a forum post properly by not reading it and instead deciding to have a rant about a some sort of issue you evidently have with 'the community' and a completely unrelated matter.

Part of the fun of this flight simming hobby thing, is that you actually can make stuff yourself, because the feature is built into the software to allow you to do so. It has been that way since the very early versions of MS Flight Simulator, and it was the entire reason that 'a community' around that interest developed in the first place.

Last but not least, the airfield is there, the OP said it was on the satellite imagery, so you can actually land on it, but you can also place a runway object over it and hit save and then it is a selectable airport. It takes minutes to do so and this is, was, and will continue to be the way MS Flight Simulator works, as evidenced by the fact that it has a Developer Mode, an SDK, a Community add-on folder and a built-in Marketplace; features which apparently escaped your notice.

Edited by Chock

Alan Bradbury

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28 minutes ago, langly said:

I'm really trying to imagine any other product where something is missing and the answer is "hey, make it yourself".

Imagine your phone missing a volume button and somebody actually telling you "why not just spend time on this product you paid money for and doing it yourself?"

What even is this community?

You've missed Chock's point.

In previous versions of flightsim, it was very difficult to create scenery, even basic scenery (well "difficult" is a relative term).

In this version, its seems very straightforward, and there are already several good tutorials out there on how to do it.

Hehe....I can see he just replied and the point I was trying to make is that this community consists of a lot of simmers who are not afraid to poke around to see what they can do to improve the sim, and the way you can do it in this version opens that up to a lot more simmers who previously would never even attempt it. 🙂

As far as any other product where the community who plays it also "mods" it to enhance their experience....just about every 3D FPS out there.  They build custom maps, armor, weapons, assist programs, etc.   In the virtual world...literally everything is possible.  Your missing volume button would not be a good example as it exists in the physical world and would require manufacturing a button (although if you had a 3d printer and a few mins...hehe)...

However, if its a smart phone, I bet there is some 13 year old kid out there who could write code to add a "soft" volume button you'd drag your finger up and down a slider on the screen to adjust it. 😉

 

 

Regards,
Steve Dra
Get my paints for MSFS planes at flightsim.to here, and iFly 737s here
Download my FSX, P3D paints at Avsim by clicking here

9Slp0L.jpg 

3 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

In this version, its seems very straightforward, and there are already several good tutorials out there on how to do it.

 

Thank you for point that out. Can you perhaps also point to those?  I am interested in getting started.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

4 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Thank you for point that out. Can you perhaps also point to those?  I am interested in getting started.

fsdeveloper.com

4 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Thank you for point that out. Can you perhaps also point to those?  I am interested in getting started.

Here is one that piqued my interest.   In retrospect its how to import from that "other" mapping program....but you can see the basics and he shows you all the free tools you need to grab to get started. 

Hehe.....I'm getting that itch I had long ago when I took on airline livery painting. 🙂   Still a lot to go over though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdCP11rqpVk&feature=emb_rel_end

 

Regards,
Steve Dra
Get my paints for MSFS planes at flightsim.to here, and iFly 737s here
Download my FSX, P3D paints at Avsim by clicking here

9Slp0L.jpg 

28 minutes ago, Chock said:
29 minutes ago, Chock said:

Part of the fun of this flight simming hobby thing, is that you actually can make stuff yourself, because the feature is built into the software to allow you to do so. It has been that way since the very early versions of MS Flight Simulator, and it was the entire reason that 'a community' around that interest developed in the first place.

 

I got into a little scenery design back in FS2002.  Made some airport packs for Alabama, lengthened a runway, at KHSV, that was no longer accurate.  Added a Rocket at the Space and Rocket center.  Added a baseball field for Huntsville Stars.  It was all very facinating and that was when you had to work with flatten statements and such.

Actually expanded my HSV to include two other airports, KBHM and KMOB so that I could do a triangle Alabama flight in an Embrarer.  It was great fun.  I might do it again, if I can get from behind the yoke.  The out of the window views are addicting.

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