I have had no luck with the Windows 2004 or later updates. (They just refuse to do anything and I have tried every method available).

However, if I use the reset method and RETAIN NOTHING, then the update takes. Obviously, I then have no programs .

My question is, and I think I know the answer already😒 , will I have to install everything again, including P3D and all my airports, planes, ancillary programs etc. or is

there by any chance a way to add back the programs from a backup copy?

 

Ian Harrison

5 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

I have had no luck with the Windows 2004 or later updates. (They just refuse to do anything and I have tried every method available).

However, if I use the reset method and RETAIN NOTHING, then the update takes. Obviously, I then have no programs .

My question is, and I think I know the answer already😒 , will I have to install everything again, including P3D and all my airports, planes, ancillary programs etc. or is

there by any chance a way to add back the programs from a backup copy?

 

Ian Harrison

have  you tried  this  you  wont  lose  any  data  or  your  programs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldqFdcGL1X0

 

11 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

have  you tried  this  you  wont  lose  any  data  or  your  programs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldqFdcGL1X0

 

Oh yes. Tried that method again just this morning. Goes through everything and completes but the version stays the same 1909. Update screen message says "we were unable to installl............ try again later" or such like and gives a generic code )xc0020036. There is obviously something it doesn't like but what it is, heaven only knows.

13 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Have you tried the following BEFORE running the Windows Updates?

1. Run Command Prompt as administrator.
2. Type the command DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth and hit Enter to continue. It may take several minutes for the command operation to be completed.
3. After that, input the command sfc /scannow and hit Enter to continue. It may also take several minutes to complete the scanning process.
After finishing, exit the command line window.
4. Disable any AV software you have running before doing the update, disable anything you see in your systray that is not critical to your PC working, if you have nVidia GF Experience disable the overlay

What was you exact Win10 update error?

Cheers, Rob.

 

Thanks for chipping in. Over the past 6 months, I have tried everything I could find. I am sure the sfc and dism scans were among them. However, I will try again using the precise order you suggest, maybe that will be the answer. (As it downloads about 3 gb each time, I need to run it at night, so as not to use up daytime data, so will report back tomorrow.)

The version it is now trying to install is W10 20H2, it previously said W10 2004, but that is no longer an option on the update screen. The error is" We couldn't install this update, but you can try again (0xc0000005)"

Edited November 4, 20205 yr by IanHarrison
Omitted part.

I had this problem -Win 2004 unobtainable 

Finally wiped everything and reinstalled P3D ,XPlane-latest versions and was ready for MSFS2020 when it came

My one real loss was my Milviz planes which still have not ported to P3Dv5

Otherwise it was the right thing to do -all the Flight Sims work well

Probably something all simmers have to do two or three times in their careers 

Good idea to update your hardware as much as you can at the same time

Overall a very worthwhile process for me

xxd09

4 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Hmmm ... right click on the drive that has the OS installed and select "Properties" ... Tools tab ... select "Check" button.  If all is good, then do this again and select "Optimize" button.

I'm assuming NOTHING is overclocked?

I'm also assuming you have enough free diskspace to do the update?

And finally, check you pagefile to make sure it's set to Auto.

Cheers, Rob.

OS drive is an SSD with 40 GB spare. Done.

I had a very small o/c just 4 to 4.3 so I have reset all settings to optimised default, which has reset memory as well, which was on XMP setting.

Pagefile was OK.

So will see tomorrow how we go.

Ian

As I understand your situation, you've not been able to successfully install the upgrade...but just in case I'm mistaken, maybe my experience can be of some value.

I tried over, and over, and over to upgrade to W10 20H2. Update would always finish, but on reboot after it completed I got BSOD. I tried unplugging all peripherals (USB etc.) but still got BSOD. I was able to boot in safe mode, but not normal boot. As a last ditch effort I unplugged my multi-card reader from the motherboard USB header and whadayaknow, booted fine. I updated the driver for the card reader, but still couldn't boot with it connected, so at this point I'm running 2004 with no card reader.

The whole upgrade thing was terribly frustrating and wasted MANY hours trying to find a solution.]

Best of luck!

12 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

That's not much, can you increase that?  If the update attempts to backup core OS files (which can take as much as 47GB) before proceeding, you might run into an issue ... aim for 80GB free.

Cheers, Rob.

Hi Rob,

I disabled everything that was running, AV, the lot, and scraped together 61Gb of space. Did what you suggested, no errors found. Ran update and it went right through and on reboot said "rolling back changes made to your system.

Grrrrrrrr.......

I feel your pain. Recently, I executed the recovery of a partition backup that I did earlier with EaseUS Todo, and after completing the task, Windows failed to boot. It just showed me that there was a problem. Attempting to repair Windows 10 using the installation disc didn't work. When I tried to repair the boot manager by entering /fixboot in the command prompt, it showed me "Access Denied", and I spend two days in the internet reading about other people who had the same problem. None of the tips helped, and I finally gave up and did a fresh installation of Windows 10 (my installation was young to begin with). 

Can you use the installation media or Windows 10 recovery drive to restore to an earlier system state?

37 minutes ago, Afterburner said:

I feel your pain. Recently, I executed the recovery of a partition backup that I did earlier with EaseUS Todo, and after completing the task, Windows failed to boot. It just showed me that there was a problem. Attempting to repair Windows 10 using the installation disc didn't work. When I tried to repair the boot manager by entering /fixboot in the command prompt, it showed me "Access Denied", and I spend two days in the internet reading about other people who had the same problem. None of the tips helped, and I finally gave up and did a fresh installation of Windows 10 (my installation was young to begin with). 

Can you use the installation media or Windows 10 recovery drive to restore to an earlier system state?

Unfortunately not. The installation is too old. 

I think part of the problem is that it was a free upgrade to W10 and about 2 years ago I had a major problem which necessitated re-installing Windows. This was done by a Computer shop. Somehow, this seems to have upset the automatic processes within Windows.

In that case, it's hard to know what the computer shop did exactly, and you have little control over it now.

The following may not sound comforting, but a fresh installation of Windows 10 (not an update) from the installation DVD/USB is the best thing for you to do. I know that reinstalling the simulators and all of the add-ons takes a lot of time, but at least you will have a fresh and lean system on your PC that is in your control with all the benefits to performance, and the time spent will at least yield a meaningful result and not be wasted on something that is not guaranteed. (And even if you could recover your system, you can't rule out stability problems in the future).

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

Did you use Windows 7 or 8 before?  Do you still have the activation code?  If yes, you can download Windows 10 from Microsoft officially and still use the activation code from an earlier version to activate Windows 10. Even my Windows 7 32-bit version activation code from 10 years ago worked on a recent Windows 10 64-bit install.

For those of us who enjoy simming by flying but also tinkering ie adding new planes.liveries ,sceneries and mods etc etc-there comes a time when constipation sets in to our sims

It is a nice decision to make ie at what point do we do clean install of Windows and Sim and start afresh

I find the Sim gets more and more difficult to run-too many CTD,s and a fresh install reminds you-for a while -what a smooth running sim can be like-before you start again the same process of destroying its integrity with increasing numbers of AddOns 

A never ending cycle!

xxd09

6 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Interesting ... was there any sort of error message other than just "rolling back changes..."?

Sadly, it might be time to do a full wipe and buy a version of Win10 from a reliable source ... avoid those websites selling it very cheap (i.e. $35).  Also be aware of OEM vs. Retail ... OEM comes with no support but will be a little cheaper $110 vs $139 retail.

Cheers, Rob.

Nope. Just after the final reboot came the "message".

6 hours ago, Afterburner said:

Did you use Windows 7 or 8 before?  Do you still have the activation code?  If yes, you can download Windows 10 from Microsoft officially and still use the activation code from an earlier version to activate Windows 10. Even my Windows 7 32-bit version activation code from 10 years ago worked on a recent Windows 10 64-bit install.

Yes. This was how the computer shop re-installed it.

Although my system is quite stable, I think you are probably correct, that this is the way to go. A nice clean PC ready to take P3D v5.? when it arrives and the problems remaining now are sorted.

Edited November 6, 20205 yr by IanHarrison