I havent read much of this but

https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/407695-how-do-members-delete-their-accounts/

I would expect there to be a way to do it yourself.

I didn´t really want to reply anymore, but I feel the need to clarify a few things. Bear in mind that I am just a "community leader", not a "moderator" at the .org and also am not employed or in other ways legally attached or affiliated with x-plane.org

1. The correct domain is x-plane.org. This is difficult for many, it is not x-plane.com or anything else. It has no connection to Laminar Research, although some devs and other employees do frequent it and interact with users there.
2. The site is situated and operated from the U.S. Just because you can access it from Europe does not mean it has to abide to European data laws. X-Plane.org knows as much about you as you voluntarily divulged when you signed up, there is no need to provide ANY personal information at all. You can also modify your status to not show any, and you can sign out and never use the site again...I will miss you if you do, but maybe nobody else will, depending on your conduct beforehand 🙂
3. I have doublechecked several times with the site´s owner who granted me the status of community leader: We don´t have to be submissive, humble or courteous in our "leading" or "moderating". People there join from all walks of life - a lot of them with little self reflection or self control, and some don´t react to professional, nice or courteous 🤣. We can call ´em as we see ´em and there are many users that welcome this "honest" treating of obvious trolls or other individuals who disrupt the way most users like x-plane.org to be. If you want to see this work, just search for Greazer´s posts at the .org and see why he was banned multiply times. It was warranted, trust me 😉
4. X-Plane.org is not a service you paid for - you are entitled exactly to what you ponied up - nothing. If you don´t like the site or the way the moderators treat you, please see the final statement of point 2 for a solution.
5. There is ample discussion of MSFS at X-Plane.org - here is the main thread for it: https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/226955-fs2020-post-release-thread-2/    Obviously the discussion is heated and a bit biased towards X-Plane, just go to a MSFS website (or the MSFS forum here) and post how much you like X-Plane there and see if you get fair and balanced treatment. Of course this comes with the territory and the fact that MSFS is inferior to X-Plane in all but the graphics representation of aircraft, scenery and weather 😋.

Cheers, Jan

23 minutes ago, Janov said:

The site is situated and operated from the U.S. Just because you can access it from Europe does not mean it has to abide to European data laws. X-Plane.org knows as much about you as you voluntarily divulged when you signed up, there is no need to provide ANY personal information at all. You can also modify your status to not show any, and you can sign out and never use the site again...I will miss you if you do, but maybe nobody else will, depending on your conduct beforehand 🙂

My personal information includes my email address, that I want removing from the database, and is something that must be provided during signup. 

With regards to data protection, you’re wrong, please get your facts straight before posting. 

https://gdpr.eu/compliance-checklist-us-companies/

Edited November 7, 20205 yr by Ianrivaldosmith

26 minutes ago, Janov said:

X-Plane.org is not a service you paid for - you are entitled exactly to what you ponied up - nothing. If you don´t like the site or the way the moderators treat you, please see the final statement of point 2 for a solution.

Just because it’s free, doesn’t give people and especially people in moderator positions, the right to treat general users like dirt. 

Anyways, thanks for help, I’ll try the suggestions above to have my info removed and see how I get on. 

34 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Just because it’s free, doesn’t give people and especially people in moderator positions, the right to treat general users like dirt. 

I actually agree - no one should ever be treated like dirt. I am not aware of what happened to you or what was said to you - I do believe there is room for interpretation on what constitutes "treating someone like dirt" - and some have a thicker skin than others.

I am not sure what the process of signing up to the .org nowadays involves - I signed up many years ago and can´t really remember. I know that one can remove the data from your profile, I do not believe that includes the email you provided when signing up.

I believe if you send Nicolas (the owner) a PM requesting your information to be deleted he will do so - of course you have no way of really verifying this. You can try to exercise and enforce your GDPR laws, of course. Good luck! I personally believe that the threat in the article you linked is a "toothless tiger" and with the rest of the world laughing about our GDPR pain-in-the-word not allowed that basically even most citizens of the EU don´t want...I can´t see anyone in the U.S. being particularly interested in helping out enforcing this abomination.

Cheers, Jan

Edited November 7, 20205 yr by Janov

42 minutes ago, Janov said:

I believe if you send Nicolas (the owner) a PM requesting your information to be deleted he will do so -

I may well be wrong, but I have found throughout life, that abuse as a first response to request something very rarely succeeds. The above may have been a better course of action which also may have negated any need for snarkiness from anyone. Being treated like dirt is not normally a reasonable response, nor expectation, to a reasonable request.  Of course, there are exceptions.

Tony

33 minutes ago, himmelhorse said:

Being treated like dirt

And to add to that - in my years over at the .org I have never seen a moderator treat anyone "like dirt". Yes, some people have been put in their place, but I think there is a difference to treating someone like dirt.

2 hours ago, Janov said:

We don´t have to be submissive, humble or courteous in our "leading" or "moderating".

But it does look like there are bonus points for telling newbies asking questions that MSFFS may be better suited to them, or banning people dumb enough to complain about the misselling on the x-plane.org store or the theft of their IP.

22 minutes ago, Janov said:

And to add to that - in my years over at the .org I have never seen a moderator treat anyone "like dirt". Yes, some people have been put in their place, but I think there is a difference to treating someone like dirt.

So, you’ve read everyone’s private messages have you? You can’t make that statement. Because you haven’t. Just because you’ve never seen it, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
And who does the end user report this to? No one, there is no recourse. Hence why I wanted all of my Information removed from there.

 
And putting someone ‘in their place’ without any kind of recourse, it’s tantamount to dictating. Here at avsim, the moderators are actually really really good. Opinions fly, some get a little crazy, but they moderate it really well. Over at the org, the same can definitely not be said. Actually, I would go as far as to say, they are bullies. Me personally, I just won’t use the place. Others however may take it personally and who knows in this day and age.  Just uncalled for. The mods could do with some training. Perhaps the avsim mods could teach them a thing or two. 

Edited November 7, 20205 yr by Ianrivaldosmith

21 minutes ago, mSparks said:

But it does look like there are bonus points for telling newbies asking questions that MSFFS may be better suited to them

Huh? Since when is that a crime? 🤣

The guy had a hard time even writing comprehensible text and was inquiring about the steps to edit the inner workings of X-Plane (mesh, ortho, landclass, google earth imports, ect.) on a level of complexity akin to brain surgery...trust me, I did him a favour when I suggested that 😁.

All he wanted was to fly over his neighbourhood and have it look like it really does... and that is something that MSFS does a lot better than X-Plane. Even mSparks might agree with that 😉.

23 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

And putting someone ‘in their place’ without any kind of recourse, it’s tantamount to dictating.

Absolutely correct. These kind of websites are no democracies and you don´t get the right to an appeal or a second opinion. You sign a lot of stuff when you sign up, and if a mod or the owner doesn´t like the sound of your name, you are gone. And if you don´t like it, you are free to go as well. Tough, but hey, those are the rules. Make your own forum and I will join so you can throw me out and then I can complain about it!🙂

And here at avsim the mods are not univocally praised, either. Some are really triggerhappy when it comes to closing down discussions, others obviously have opinions that sway the direction of their ban-hammer, too. Mods are not "trained" or go to some special 6 months course in the Scottish highlands where they become a sworn in elite corps and learn to live of the land at the same time. They are just regular guys you have agreed to do the job and they have to cast judgement...much like a referee in soccer not everyone is always happy with those calls.

Jan

41 minutes ago, Janov said:

Absolutely correct. These kind of websites are no democracies and you don´t get the right to an appeal or a second opinion. You sign a lot of stuff when you sign up, and if a mod or the owner doesn´t like the sound of your name, you are gone. And if you don´t like it, you are free to go as well. Tough, but hey, those are the rules. Make your own forum and I will join so you can throw me out and then I can complain about it!🙂

And here at avsim the mods are not univocally praised, either. Some are really triggerhappy when it comes to closing down discussions, others obviously have opinions that sway the direction of their ban-hammer, too. Mods are not "trained" or go to some special 6 months course in the Scottish highlands where they become a sworn in elite corps and learn to live of the land at the same time. They are just regular guys you have agreed to do the job and they have to cast judgement...much like a referee in soccer not everyone is always happy with those calls.

Jan

With an attitude like that, let's be thankful you're not a mod 🙂

PS rubbish analogy with the referee. And its football, not soccer 😉 

 

Edited November 7, 20205 yr by Ianrivaldosmith

1 hour ago, Janov said:

Huh? Since when is that a crime? 🤣

The guy had a hard time even writing comprehensible text and was inquiring about the steps to edit the inner workings of X-Plane (mesh, ortho, landclass, google earth imports, ect.) on a level of complexity akin to brain surgery...trust me, I did him a favour when I suggested that 😁.

All he wanted was to fly over his neighbourhood and have it look like it really does... and that is something that MSFS does a lot better than X-Plane. Even mSparks might agree with that 😉.

And I wasn't even talking about you, so way to prove the point.....

XP has users from all over the world i.e. not just the US and UK, vast majority of flight simmers are old guys who have trouble with their vision.

It doesn't take much patience to cut these guys a little slack rather than seemingly going beyond the call of duty to give X-Plane a reputation LR doesn't deserve (which you must be aware of, or you wouldn't feel the need to disassociate X-Plane.org from X-Plane.com)

 

 

 

Every forum has its fair share of those types of users, the ones who are always right and love to show how knowledgable they are at the expense of making newbies look like idiots, and sadly it can stain an otherwise good community. Anyone remember how one certain user (arm-chair moderator) many years ago really destroyed the reputation of the Aerosoft forums, I'm sure anyone who had the pleasure of dealing with him will know who I'm talking about 😛

X-Plane.org is mostly a good resource and I've never had a run in over there with any mods, and Nicolas has been more than helpful in the past helping me host files and a support forum. Some of the moderators can seem heavy handed at times, but as of yet I've never put myself in a situation that meant I had to be dealt with. However, the commercial side of the forums is a different story, especially with users offering feedback/complaints on purchased products, and I see lots of problems with this.

As for getting your account deleted, just ask them. Threatening with GDPR etc won't help your cause, and generally being polite and calm will work wonders.