24 minutes ago, micstatic said:

you can change the refresh rate of your monitor as opposed to just locking frames.  Similar end result.  But I've done that to 30hz for years and been very happy with it.  The only time it's very noticeable to me not using the native 60hz of my screen is when panning.  I also fly airliners.  If I was flying military jets 30hz wouldn't be good.  

Since i've gone from the 1080ti to 3090 I'm exploring setting my refresh rate higher due to the increased headroom.  Previously I set NCP refresh rate to 30hz in P3D.  Unless I was flying the Majestic Q400.  Then I would leave at native 60 since that airplane performs massively better than any other I have.  

Agree with you on the first paragraph.  For me it's always been those little details that made the 30hz workaround noticeable.  Things like panning, or ai passing midflight with a micro stutter etc..  Ideally to your point if it performs well enough you don't need to limit to 30 hz.    

Now your second paragraph is what really intrigues me.  If you can go to a 60hz refresh rate with the 3090 in all scenarios (I'm running 5K) and say, yep it crushes P3D outside exclusion areas like KEWR then it is 110% worth the investment IMO...

At the end of the day though, this is just my opinion so not really worth the pixels on your monitor 🙂  

 

Also, please don't take this wrong, I don't begrudge anyone that already bought a 3090, to the contrary, totally jealous, I would have done it already too if I could find one!  3090 for FS and 3070 for my racing rig 🙂 

Edited November 25, 20205 yr by psolk

29 minutes ago, psolk said:

Agree with you on the first paragraph.  For me it's always been those little details that made the 30hz workaround noticeable.  Things like panning, or ai passing midflight with a micro stutter etc..  Ideally to your point if it performs well enough you don't need to limit to 30 hz.    

Now your second paragraph is what really intrigues me.  If you can go to a 60hz refresh rate with the 3090 in all scenarios (I'm running 5K) and say, yep it crushes P3D outside exclusion areas like KEWR then it is 110% worth the investment IMO...

At the end of the day though, this is just my opinion so not really worth the pixels on your monitor 🙂  

 

Also, please don't take this wrong, I don't begrudge anyone that already bought a 3090, to the contrary, totally jealous, I would have done it already too if I could find one!  3090 for FS and 3070 for my racing rig 🙂 

Well Paul I'm waiting for the 3080TI with 20Gb ram, rumors where they canceled the TI, but on the contrary at the end of this year we will see some more news 😉

I find the 3090 price / performance not worth the buck in my case... Certainly not for P3D 😉 at this point in time 😉

Looking also closely for the first time in more then 15 years to the AMD RTX6900... at this point my 2080 is holding pretty well during the wait 🤣

Edited November 25, 20205 yr by awf

6 hours ago, Shomron said:

So with the 3090 no more AG popping in patches?

As the AG’s range is now very far in the distance and EA has a Raleigh scattering haze the AG popping in batches might exist but because of that haze I do not see it happening...

@awf  Just read yesterday the Ti is cancelled yet again.  But I can't find the link.  

@psolk  I've noticed that Dynamic Lighting when using higher AA settings is no longer an issue on my machine.  Still have tons more testing to do.  I still think in a year (or two) if I'm using MSFS that will also be a big performance gain.  In fact I've done some testing in it, and am seeing far better results than my 1080ti.  I run that also in 4k.  My performance in 4k with 100% scaling is better than it was with 4k 70% scaling.  

 

Everybody has their own criteria.  But for me the 3090 was a significant update from the 1080ti

14 minutes ago, micstatic said:

@awf  Just read yesterday the Ti is cancelled yet again.  But I can't find the link.  

 

https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1323785556417863680

https://www.hkepc.com/19893/20GB_GDDR6X__

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/174200/gerucht-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-krijgt-evenveel-cuda-cores-als-rtx-3090.html

 

 

Edited November 25, 20205 yr by awf

New cards on the way from MSI.

MSI officially presents SUPRIM Line of Graphics Cards (guru3d.com)

The 3090 SUPRIM toped the benchmarks in MSFS, I think you will see more coming in the next 6 months.

32 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

New cards on the way from MSI.

MSI officially presents SUPRIM Line of Graphics Cards (guru3d.com)

The 3090 SUPRIM toped the benchmarks in MSFS, I think you will see more coming in the next 6 months.

Good to see that new cards are coming .

Keep in mind that a card like the Gigabyte AORUS Xtreme / Asus ROG Strix both with a baseclock of 1800 MHz are only 2-3% faster than the FE 3090 with 1695 baseclock...

And in P3D terms that would probably mean 1 -1.5% more FPS . So 30 FPS with the FE and 30.3 - 30.5 with the other 2. 
Compare prices and value before deciding I would say.

My Inno3D 3090 X3 is running at baseclock 1755 and the X4 at 1800 MHz.

Edited November 25, 20205 yr by GSalden

I don`t intend buying a GPU for 6 months by then things will have settled down hopefully and more choice available.

What are they going to do next if NV and AMD announce something new some may hold off and skip the present cards, third party manufactures will not like that.  

PS wait till DX12 and PMDG comes to MSFS they tweaked the AI to reduce the performance impact in yesterdays update.

At KLAS night 9,5 GB GPU memory. 4K ULTRA 

 

Edited November 25, 20205 yr by G-RFRY

GPU related question - has anyone already tested RX 6800 XT in P3D? I'm curious which one - 3800 or 6800XT - gives better experience / performance in P3D. 

For those with unstable 3090 performance: check your PSU. I had to switch from a Bequiet SP 11 850W multi-ray to a single ray PSU ( Corsair AX850 Platinum). Now it is perfectly fine in every heavy scenario. You have to understand how multi ray PSUs work and that you cannot run the 3090 on one rail using a Y cable. It is NOT about Watt numbers only.

(multi-rail= more than 1x 12V rails with different Ampere numbers. Single-rail= one 12V rail with 70A for example. Power delivery in Watt= 12V * xxAmpere. You will quickly see that you have to be very careful setting up the power connection for a beast like the 3090. Never use Y cables for a up to 400W GPU) 

The Sims are not the best software to test this stability. You can use games with heavy GPU load all the time or GPU benchmarking/stability check software. 

I am perfectly happy with my FE edition, paired with a Ryzen R9 5900x (boost between 4700Mhz - 4950Mhz while gaming in heavy CPU intensive scenarios)