I'm more tempted by this than most of the aircraft released so far, simply because it is significantly different from all the default planes. That's not to say none of the others handle differently than the defaults, but they simply look too similar to be of major interest to me. Now, once a good Mosquito, C-17 Globemaster II (as has been flying round me tonight), A400M, Hercules, Spitfire, Dash 8, BAe 146 (not forgetting helicopters) etc becomes available...😎

3 minutes ago, cavaricooper said:

@sd_flyer

Before MSFS it was the ONLY Carenado (Alabeo) product I flew... just magnificent over Maho.  Do give us your initial impressions... we are WEAK creatures 🙂

C

OK...

No matter how I load airplane my CG is always forward of CG range. I'm not sure if its a bug or Carenado or shortcomings  of MSFS.

It stallbelievablee. Turns require step on the ball. Engine choke if you fly inverted. Easily ground loops when raising tail to quickly. I'm still trying to figure it out 🙂

Seems like I'm getting problem with smooth take off. I'm trying to mimic video below

 

 

FYI,

Documentation is rather incomplete. Just joystick settings and small performance table

 

Here is copy and paste

POWERPLANT - Engine Jacobs R755A2, A2M Standard - 300 HP @ 2200 RPM, 1400 hr. TBO - Propellers Fixed-Pitch, MT wood / composite, 92 in. dia WEIGHTS & LOADINGS Basic Empty Weight 2150 lb (975 kg) Baggage Capacity 100 lb (45 kg) Gross Weight 2950 lb (1338 kg) Useful Load 800 lb (363 kg) max PERFORMANCE Never-exceed speed 214 mph (186 kt) Cruise speed 127 mph (110 kt) Stall Speed, power off 59 mph (51 kt) Fuel Standard - 48 US gal (182 litres) Optional Long Range Tanks - 72 US gal (273 litres) Fuel Consumption 15 US gal/hr G limits +5.2 / -2.1 @ 2950 l

15 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

FYI,

Documentation is rather incomplete. Just joystick settings and small performance table

 

Here is copy and paste

POWERPLANT - Engine Jacobs R755A2, A2M Standard - 300 HP @ 2200 RPM, 1400 hr. TBO - Propellers Fixed-Pitch, MT wood / composite, 92 in. dia WEIGHTS & LOADINGS Basic Empty Weight 2150 lb (975 kg) Baggage Capacity 100 lb (45 kg) Gross Weight 2950 lb (1338 kg) Useful Load 800 lb (363 kg) max PERFORMANCE Never-exceed speed 214 mph (186 kt) Cruise speed 127 mph (110 kt) Stall Speed, power off 59 mph (51 kt) Fuel Standard - 48 US gal (182 litres) Optional Long Range Tanks - 72 US gal (273 litres) Fuel Consumption 15 US gal/hr G limits +5.2 / -2.1 @ 2950 l

Same engine as the Staggerwing.

Cool

BTW as far as I know the S2020 flight model does not support more than one set of wings it has to be fudged. But FSX and P3D have that issue as well.

Edited January 15, 20215 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

OK, I don't know how real WACO flown but it ain't Citabria I tell you that! The only way I can get smooth take off is by locking tail wheel (via MSFS assignment key). Keep my stick aft until around 50-55%. small ease up on a stick to neutral  and then slightly up. That seem gives the most stable take off

Just now, sd_flyer said:

OK, I don't know how real WACO flown but it ain't Citabria I tell you that! The only way I can get smooth take off is by locking tail wheel (via MSFS assignment key). Keep my stick aft until around 50-55%. small ease up on a stick to neutral  and then slightly up. That seem gives the most stable take off

That might be a MSFS issue. The Bleriot is very similar.

So that what I get by default. May be that is why I can't spin it

That is the only way to balance Wako to stay within max gross. By the way where does 2nd pax seat? LOL

I suspect it is the same MSFS FM issue that Iris are struggling with that causes the Jabiru to nose over under heavy brakes and stall a bit oddly.

Hopefully a better SDK will eventually overcome these issues.

22 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

By the way where does 2nd pax seat? LOL

 

 

Edited January 15, 20215 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

I bought it too.The sound alone is awesome. The takeoff was insane at full power... I have only done one so far. Landing was ok. Good luck flying this without head tracking or VR. 

A few bugs, other than the wonky take off... Oil Temp doesn't seem to do anything at all. EGT and CHT do not work either. And as mentioned, documentation is lacking... fuel flow seems off...too low...i saw around 11gph in a pretty quick cruise. 

I will know more with a bit more time in her. 

Edited January 15, 20215 yr by jpe828

A video of the two passenger seating arrangement.

 

 

Edited January 15, 20215 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

2 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

A video of the two passenger seating arrangement.

 

 

Ok I see. However, two US models I tried seems have only single seat with a stick and few gauges

1 minute ago, sd_flyer said:

Ok I see. However, two US models I tried seems have only single seat with a stick and few gauges

I suspect (with no real evidence) the Vintage ones were 2 seat and the more recent retro modern ones were 3 seat.

If so it seems like this Carenado is hybrid of vintage in the 3D modelling and modern in the FM ?

Bit odd regardless.

 

OK so loaded 500+ lbs aft juts to have CG seen agree with norm. In that config I was able to get into incident spin.

Low tail take off technique prove to be very stable. Now I wonder if all take off complication is due CG too forward. Wake definitely missing some weight on tail wheel so keeping stick aft compensate for it