January 3, 20215 yr Author Commercial Member So after the formatting of my PC, I am only getting the below CTDs. d3d11.dl seems to be the issue now and I have no clue what could cause this. Faulting application name: FlightSimulator.exe, version: 1.12.13.0, time stamp: 0x5fda3fe4 Faulting module name: d3d11.dll, version: 10.0.19041.546, time stamp: 0xef86554b Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x000000000012e980 Faulting process id: 0x418c Faulting application start time: 0x01d6e1d46d725639 Faulting application path: D:\Steam\steamapps\common\MicrosoftFlightSimulator\FlightSimulator.exe Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll Report Id: 8b72c6b1-2b7d-481e-8274-07d804900c0c Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Discord | YouTube | iFly Schedules 34" Odyssey OLED G8 175Hz | 3440X1440 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB | G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case
January 3, 20215 yr You have to finish the troubleshooting steps, what would generally cause that, well generally it's a HW issue as we noted (since you already reinstalled), but you cannot tell from looking at that error as to what caused it. It's too involved to track it down, you can run tracing apps and get more detailed info possibly, but it's not worth it. You need to just do a general troubleshooting to eliminate and isolate the other causes as has already been outlined in the thread. https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/592833-i-am-so-sick-of-this/?do=findComment&comment=4446265 https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/592833-i-am-so-sick-of-this/?do=findComment&comment=4446338 Note: There are multiple paths you can take, but I would take the easiest path which is probably installing the GamePass version next, or you can skip it and assume faulty HW (up to you really). Edited January 3, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
January 3, 20215 yr If you really want to dig deep into a rabbit hole, here is yet another place for you to look: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive Don't say i didn't warn you... AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
January 3, 20215 yr Author Commercial Member @Alpine Scenery My BIOS is default and NO high temps. And my PSU is 650W which is more than enough. Why can I run a bunch of other games with NO issues and MSFS 2020 can't work right. Heck even Cyberpunk works great! Discord | YouTube | iFly Schedules 34" Odyssey OLED G8 175Hz | 3440X1440 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB | G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case
January 3, 20215 yr @Clem116 Try using MSFS with just your KB and mouse to rule out if your controller is possibly the issue. Have you disabled all AI traffic? set all sliders for AI ground, cars, boats, airport crew to 0 (off) MSFS Alpha tester on W10 Pro x64. Hardware: AMD 5900X 12 core CPU. Cooler Master ML360R AIO, Asus X570-E mobo, Asus Strix 3090 24GB gfx card, G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4x16) DDR4-3600 RAM, Samsung 970 250GB SSD (OS), Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 pcie-4 NVMe SSD (MSFS install). EVGA 850w Gold cert PSU, CUK Continuum full ATX tower. 43" Sceptre 4K display. VR: HP Reverb G2.
January 3, 20215 yr 9 minutes ago, Clem116 said: . Why can I run a bunch of other games with NO issues and MSFS 2020 can't work right. Heck even Cyberpunk works great! Once you get rid of addons and controllers and uninstall controller software the only unusual thing about MSFS compared to most other games is it is very CPU intensive on a single core. TBH though this is not an issue that is likely to be solved by random forum posts, I assume you have contacted MS support?.
January 3, 20215 yr Author Commercial Member 32 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said: Once you get rid of addons and controllers and uninstall controller software the only unusual thing about MSFS compared to most other games is it is very CPU intensive on a single core. TBH though this is not an issue that is likely to be solved by random forum posts, I assume you have contacted MS support?. Yes and to be honest they are pretty useless.... Just got another CTD. Edited January 3, 20215 yr by Clem116 Discord | YouTube | iFly Schedules 34" Odyssey OLED G8 175Hz | 3440X1440 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB | G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 | Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 | Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 | ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | Fractal Design North XL ATX Full Tower Case
January 3, 20215 yr 19 minutes ago, Clem116 said: Yes and to be honest they are pretty useless.... yeah ... support for any company tends to be, they usually do not pay them enough to get anyone competent there is an old joke about MS Support that has been around at least 20 years or more: Quote A helicopter was flying around above Seattle yesterday when anelectrical malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronicnavigation and communication equipment. Due to the clouds and hazethe pilot could not determine his position or course to steer to theairport. The pilot saw a tall building, flew toward it, circled, drewa handwritten sign and held it in the helicopter's window. The signsaid "WHERE AM I ?" in large letters.People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew alarge sign and held it in a building window. Their sign said, "YOUARE IN A HELICOPTER." The pilot smiled, waved, looked at his map anddetermine the course to steer to SEATAC (Seattle/Tacoma) airport andlanded safely.After they were on the ground, the co-pilot asked the pilot how the"YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position. Thepilot responded, "I knew that had to be the MICROSOFT buildingbecause they gave me a technically correct but completely uselessanswer.
January 3, 20215 yr 9 minutes ago, Clem116 said: Yes and to be honest they are pretty useless.... Just got another CTD. Please try the tip from Brandon: I would also try to play the game at max lowered settings, disable as much as possible. 3 hours ago, Alpine Scenery said: You have to finish the troubleshooting steps, what would generally cause that, well generally it's a HW issue as we noted (since you already reinstalled) That`s not true, you forgot that it is a software bug possibly occuring on some systems or configuration. Just read the newest thread, he is not the only one frustrated: I just had the 0XC0..5 error today, but it was on purpose and not in FS2020. I do very basic Windows programming and I received the error because I deleted an object in RAM that was later accessed and not found. I did it because I get a stack overflow error on a standard recursive running Windows function. Other than that, I highly doubt it is an hardware error, especially when other games run without problems. Quote Yes and to be honest they are pretty useless.... LOL
January 3, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Clem116 said: @Alpine Scenery My BIOS is default and NO high temps. And my PSU is 650W which is more than enough. Why can I run a bunch of other games with NO issues and MSFS 2020 can't work right. Heck even Cyberpunk works great! If it's only happening in MSFS, then your logical next step is to try the Gamepass version, not sure how many times to say it. I also agree to disconnect other devices just because it's simple to do, but since the fatal exception is in D3D, it's highly unlikely to be USB related or connection related. 90% of the time fatal exceptions in D3D is either a driver problem, problem with the OS or game (which you already ruled out by reinstalling), a HW setting / BIOS, or a bad component. It can be USB or triggered by another device, but it's unlikely as that doesn't generally have anything to do with D3D calls. BTW, I've been doing this stuff since the 1990's. That said, your power supply is very very borderline. Not saying it is your P/S. but 650 watts with a 1080 and an i9900 and multiple drives and you OC'd, it depends on the quality and brand of the P/S. So many P/S have fake ratings. 750 watts would generally be the minimum safe if you were going any brand, if it's high-end PS brand, maybe 650 is enough, but still borderline. I've seen problems before with 600-650 watt power supplies and your configuration, it's usually enough but it's too close. You should have 750 minimum due to QC variance and other reasons. If the CPU load is higher on FS 2020 than your other games, then the power draw will be higher, and the P/S will actually cause a voltage anomaly which can cause it. Your USB ports also draw a bit of extra power, and it all adds up. Edited January 3, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
January 3, 20215 yr 48 minutes ago, Clem116 said: Yes and to be honest they are pretty useless.... Just got another CTD. We have pretty similar systems. I was experiencing CTD's back in November, so I went back to stock CPU settings and switched from XMP2 to XMP1, From then on, the CTD's seems to go away until last week. I'd say I've done 15 flights over the past 30 days, and of those 15, I completed 13 without incident with 2 CTD's in the last 7 days. Aside from that, I'm warming up to the sim and the FBWA320. I know you have rolled back your OC, but I didn't catch how your memory is currently configured. I just think this sim isn't very forgiving, and it will exploit any weakness in your system. The biggest difference in our systems is our power supplies. I have no clue on the best way to trouble shoot power issues. I typically just buy the biggest/baddest PSU for the price that I is available at the time. PC Part Picker shows an estimated wattage of around 500for my system, so if I have double, I can sleep at night even if it is overkill. Out of curiosity, do peripherals use a lot of power? Like many, I don't have a free USB slot. Edited January 3, 20215 yr by duckbilled MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad
January 3, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, duckbilled said: I know you have rolled back your OC, but I didn't catch how your memory is currently configured. I just think this sim isn't very forgiving, and it will exploit any weakness in your system. Yes, this is a good point. He needs to make sure absolutely nothing is OC'd, not even the memory. He should also underclock the memory and video card as a last resort, to see if that helps. Beyond that, we told him what to do already, so I'm out of here, already told him how to diagnose it. AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
January 3, 20215 yr 34 minutes ago, BigDee said: That`s not true, you forgot that it is a software bug possibly occuring on some systems or configuration. Just read the newest thread, he is not the only one frustrated: I am saying what is most likely given his description, since the way he describes the error does not appear to be software given he did a fresh install of Windows and the CTD happened so fast in a fresh copy. CTD's aren't likely to happen like that at such fast random intervals on a fresh install with a vanilla config, that would be unusual. It appears to be a bad HW setting or bad component, but until he runs through the other troubleshooting steps, not much use in guessing to be honest. If i had to guess, i'd say P/S, bad HW setting / config, memory config or bad, or video card issue. I wouldn't guess software, but I'm not there so I cannot see it. If i was there, i'd know in less than 20 minutes what it was. I also would have already tried the gamepass version, among other things... Edited January 3, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
January 3, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Alpine Scenery said: If i was there, i'd know in less than 20 minutes what it was. I also would have already tried the gamepass version, among other things... There are 0 reasons that the gamepass version would behave differently from the Steam version. The only difference is in the installer. Edited January 3, 20215 yr by marsman2020 AMD 3950X | 64GB RAM | AMD 5700XT | CH Fighterstick / Pro Throttle / Pro Pedals
January 3, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, marsman2020 said: What a load of BS, "I'd know what was going on in 20 min". I've never seen someone so full of themselves. There is 0 reason that the gamepass version would behave differently from the Steam version. The only difference is in the installer. I'm sure a lot of us would, yes I would. Have run 1000's of computers back to the 1980's to 90's. There are reasons it could vary and in this stuff you can never think of every possible variable. Was responsible for many many servers, not full of myself, just experienced. I am also a programmer. What installing the Gamepass version does is eliminate a potential installer or steam issue that could be repeating itself from a Windows version or update conflict. That is just one possibility. I am not saying it's LIKELY, but it's simple to try to further solidify the chances that is hardware and not some odd FS 2020 issue. You are quick to challenge and insult, but you haven't the faintest clue what you are talking about. Edited January 3, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery AMD 5800x | Nvidia 3080 (12gb) | 64gb ram
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