Hi,

does anybody already have this plane...it might be quite pricy if it is not a real study-level plane as promised so I would like to see some feedback before buying this bird.

https://www.pilots.shop/Cms/Ui/Pages/Products/MainPage.aspx?id=9c96eb9a-0097-4083-be89-64f534a61a6e

br Marc

I would be interested to hear feedback too. The Clipper is more expensive than the PMDG DC-6 by 10$.

As I recall in older Clipper version (for FSX?) there was some mini-sceneries goodies (water airports) included. It seems that is not the case here.

What is it likee to do a transoceanic flight in this bird?

I have the Clipper and love it, this is such a different airplane. I am fascinated by the history of it and impressed by the amount of study that went into this model. However, I didn't have much time to test the final release yet, and the early release was limited in its functionality.

>> quite pricy if it is not a real study-level plane

"Study-level" is not a well-defined notion and everyone seems to have different ideas about what it means. I can describe what the model simulates, though:

- cold and dark start, which is quite involved since the pilot and the flight engineer both have to perform actions. I can do that using the 2D panels for the flight engineer and I believe other managed to do it in the VC alone.

- fuel management, including fuel transfer between tanks during flight.

- an old inertial autopilot, similar to the one in the A2A Connie.

- The VC models the entire flight deck, which has two rooms that accommodate pilot, co-pilot, flight engineer, navigator, and radio communication officer. There are also seats for the master of the ship and a flight mechanic who could fix engine problems during flight.

- What is missing is a sextant (but you can install a freeware sextant), cabin, and the possibility to crawl into the wings for fixing engines. Also, operations on water are somewhat limited.

Hence, with the sextant added, you can study flight performance and navigation as done in 1939. However, since the airplanes didn't include a lot of complex avionics, people who are used to FSL or PMDG products may consider the airplane as light on systems. That's just how planes were back then.

>>  there was some mini-sceneries goodies (water airports) included

None are included, but you can find a recent set of freeware water aerodromes for the Atlantic PanAm routes on Avsim/

>> What is it likee to do a transoceanic flight

I haven't tried that yet. The early access version had issues with fuel transfer and the autopilot, which made longer flights somewhat challenging. However, according to change logs, both issues have been fixed. I did a 4-hour flight from Shediac to Botswood and that was nice. 

Peter

$97.00  USD!    I'll need to see some really sparkling reviews before I spend that kind of money.

 

Edited January 24, 20215 yr by TASCHMANN

Peter,

Thanks for your informative answer.

7 hours ago, Simicro said:

What is it likee to do a transoceanic flight in this bird?

Long and tiresome.  Actual flying time was about 23 hours.  Charles Blair describes a flight in a similar flying boat in "Red Ball In The Sky".

Jim Driskell

Too pricey in my opinion.

Cheers, Ed

I have it... It's a challenge. I have been flying short hops without trying the auto-pilot (no idea how to use it yet) and it's been satisfying, but I have yet to tackle it to start from cold and dark (which I do with literally all the other aircraft every flight)... It's just a big pain in the rear. It would have been useful to do what A2A did with Connie - have an AI flight engineer to do stuff for you back there. It's really tedious to hop back and forth between stations. 

 

And yes, it's wicked expensive for what it is.