BostonJeremy77

I think in terms of the ENVIRONMENT (not ground, etc), XP12 is the best out of the 3 current sim versions. Even things like trees... I find XP12's trees much better than MSFS, for instance. The one area of improvement is autogen stuff. Also... I pity the other 2 sims for night flying. It's by FAR the best in XP12. I don't enjoy flying at night in the other 2 as much as XP12. An in terms of simulation of flight? Hands down, t's great. Right on par with MSFS (as they made strides in things not feeling on rails, etc...)

Yeah, I got banned at MSFS Forums for a reply to their contest with "best pics of runway lights"... I said it was a strange topic to run a contest with considering night lighting in MSFS is not great, especially with missing lights all over the place and taxiway lights randomly appearing in the middle of taxiways, etc... I said that unfortunately, XP12 is where I prefer to fly at night because it just looks way better and I hope MSFS can improve to compete with THAT. It was considered inflammatory and unconstructive while all I did was mention how good XP12 looks at night and expressed hope that one day MSFS can reach that level.

Under Equipment in FMC

I really hope they decide to include the far north and south regions of the map at some point. It's the only thing that bugs me about XP. I don't know whether to get Grand Arctic or Aerosoft Greenland... because those overlap, so... I feel that Aerosoft scenery would be fairly high quality, but then I won't have the rest of the Arctic region that HSimulations provides.

Can't even tell you how much I want this aircraft. Unfortunately, I am NOT reverting back from P3Dv6 to v5 and I don't use P3D often enough to have both of them on my system. I already have XP12 and MSFS, so... 4 sims would be too much. I hope they update for v6 sooner than later... or at least release the MSFS version.

Yes, MSFS has a LOT of high fidelity stuff - PMDG, A2A, MilViz, Leonardo, FlySimWare, SimWorks, etc... there is also FSReborn which I can't wait for their Piper, but this is about X-Plane! I fly mostly airliners and I already have a list of stuff I want since jumping into XP12 head first about a week ago... Firstly, I am waiting for XP12 versions of stuff I have - FlyJSim's 727 and 737... I know there will be a price tag for the upgrade, but I don't mind. I am debating whether to stay with FlyJSim or to go with IXEG for the 737 Classic. I have no 737 Classic in MSFS to fly, and there are 2 for XP! I did have Captain Sim's pretty good Classic but it's not for P3D v6 and I refuse to have the old P3D installed - I don't use P3D often enough to have anything other than their latest and greatest. Also, there is FF A350 which I have and which is compatible with 12 - there are no 350s in MSFS yet. I am also looking at stuff I can't get in MSFS like ToLiss' A340 - there is no one announcing an upcoming 340 in MSFS. The general rule is that I probably won't buy same aircraft that I have in other sims for any other sims... For example, I have Majestic's Q400 for P3D v6 and I have zero intentions of buying it for any other sim. The idea is that I can fly different aircraft in different sims thereby regularly experiencing the best they have to offer. But since XP12 is now the one that I fly the most, my list of stuff to get for it is growing! It helps that I am starting to discover features I didn't even know were there! I used XP11 for about a year or so and had NO IDEA that both 11 and 12 can simulate things like bird strikes! I just tried my first strike on a 172 in XP12 the other day and it was a hoot! MSFS doesn't offer these things! I also find default ATC better in both XP12 and P3D. Each sim offers a very distinct and different experience. RIGHT NOW, my fascination is with flying in XP12, but I don't have enough airliners. I have Zibo, A350, and the EXCELLENT Felis 747-200... Still reeling from the loss of my beloved Tu-154 from XP11 with no sight of update planned or available.

Here's a question though... for all those of you who have been XP users for a long time... How come LR still doesn't include anything above I think 73 degrees North and a certain point South? It's really the only simulator that doesn't have the complete planet available - even P3D has those places. I think at some point soon I may splurge on HSimulations' Grand Arctic, Grand Antarctica, and Russia Xtreme North just so that I have the whole globe.

I haven't been able to put down XP12 for over a week now. I used to fly MSFS 99% of the time... I still fool around in P3D v6 too, but XP is more and more appealing to me. I seriously can't stand flying at night in MSFS, and XP's night flying is magic. The airports are alive. Everything is just... more interesting. Terrain? Well, I use XP for airliners, so there's limited concern on that. But everything feels a bit more real.

Nice! I am gonna wait and see if they include it in the 12.0.8. Thank you for your work!

I spend 99% of my time in MSFS, but for the past 3 days I have been flying nothing but XP12. And I can't pry myself away right now. There IS such a thing as enjoying each sim for their differences and things that they each do better than the other. As for visuals, I gotta say... atmospherics-wise??? XP12 stepped it up big time. And I can't wait to see what they do with 12.0.8 and especially, 12.1.0! Things are only gonna get better here. The changes they talked about coming for XP12 are music to my ears. It's really on its way up, as far as I am concerned. I can't wait to be pleasantly surprised by the stuff that's coming that will make it even better! And now I am going to invest into some more 3rd party aircraft for XP12. I was just upset that I lost my FlyJSim Boeings from XP11 and the Felis Tu-154, because those can't be used in XP12. Felis became freeware with no update in sight, and FlyJSim doesn't have an XP12 version yet, but I will likely have to re-purchase it if I want to fly it. Those were some good birds that I miss.

OK, so I am not the only one with this... that's good to know. Such a weird thing. It was never an issue in XP11 at that airport. Perhaps I should submit a bug report.

Well, after the scenery reinstall, sadly, TJVQ still has that pit in the middle of the runway. I am puzzled by this because I have zero scenery addons, just 3 aircraft.

OK... so after Atlanta, I flew into San Juan, PR... on taxiway there I found same kinda deal... This made me think that SOMETHING in the scenery of that region is corrupted or missing. Mesh or something of the sort. I don't know how to read the log file but I found some suspicious looking stuff - here are "exerpts" from this session... 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+30-090/+32-084.dsf: 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Unable to locate object: lib/airport/Common_Elements/Miscellaneous/com_Const_Trailer.obj 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Failed to find resource 'lib/airport/Common_Elements/Miscellaneous/com_Const_Trailer.obj', referenced from scenery package 'Global Scenery/Global Airports/'. 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+30-090/+32-084.dsf: 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Unable to locate object: lib/airport/Common_Elements/Miscellaneous/com_Const_Trailer.obj 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Failed to find resource 'lib/airport/Common_Elements/Miscellaneous/com_Const_Trailer.obj', referenced from scenery package 'Global Scenery/Global Airports/'. 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+30-090/+32-084.dsf: 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Unable to locate object: lib/airport/Common_Elements/Miscellaneous/com_Const_Trailer.obj 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Failed to find resource 'lib/airport/Common_Elements/Miscellaneous/com_Const_Trailer.obj', referenced from scenery package 'Global Scenery/Global Airports/'. 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+30-090/+32-084.dsf: 0:01:31.625 E/SCN: Unable to locate object: lib/airport/Common_Elements/Miscellaneous/com_Const_Trailer.obj 0:01:31.625 W/TEX: Resources/default scenery/1000 world terrain/textures12/apt/apt_ground2_NML.dds compressed texture used as material source 1:09:30.729 W/TEX: Resources/default scenery/1000 world terrain/textures12/apt/apt_ground1_NML.dds compressed texture used as material source 1:09:46.745 I/SCN: DSF load time: 76125 for file Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+30-090/+32-081.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2) 1:09:46.745 I/DSF: Warning for missing scenery file: +30-081 1:09:47.251 W/TEX: Resources/default scenery/1000 world terrain/textures12/apt/apt_ground1_NML.dds compressed texture used as material source 1:55:31.914 I/SCN: DSF load time: 27042 for file Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+20-080/+25-080.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2) 1:55:32.027 I/SCN: DSF load time: 113126 for file Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+20-080/+25-078.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2) 1:55:32.097 I/SCN: DSF load time: 159575 for file Global Scenery/X-Plane 12 Global Scenery/Earth nav data/+20-080/+25-080.dsf (7028 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2) 1:55:32.447 I/SCN: DSF load time: 448711 for file Global Scenery/X-Plane 12 Global Scenery/Earth nav data/+20-080/+25-078.dsf (43780 tris, 8 skipped for -21.5 m^2) 1:55:32.665 I/SCN: DSF load time: 34641 for file Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+20-080/+25-079.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2) 1:55:33.385 I/SCN: DSF load time: 715134 for file Global Scenery/X-Plane 12 Global Scenery/Earth nav data/+20-080/+25-079.dsf (20545 tris, 3 skipped for -6.6 m^2) 1:55:33.665 I/SCN: DSF load time: 26526 for file Global Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+20-080/+25-077.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2) 1:55:34.080 I/SCN: DSF load time: 393130 for file Global Scenery/X-Plane 12 Global Scenery/Earth nav data/+20-080/+25-077.dsf (29956 tris, 1 skipped for -3.6 m^2) 2:03:42.270 I/DSF: Warning for missing scenery file: +25-075 2:03:42.304 I/DSF: Warning for missing scenery file: +27-075 2:03:42.336 I/DSF: Warning for missing scenery file: +26-075 I don't know what any of this means, but this refers to missing scenery files... So I went into my Steam install of XP12 and deleted Global Scenery and Airports and all that... Everything but aircraft... Validated files through Steam and it found a ton of missing files which it is now downloading. Hopefully this cures the issue... Also... does anyone else on the latest beta have an issue with once you run XP12, you can't re-run it because Steam says it's still running even though you quit? I had to terminate it via Steam - (Stop)... then it runs fine. Hopefully this cures the issue. I will report on the results when XP is done downloading.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will try it. The only addons I have are Felis 747, Zibo, and FF A350. The rest is plain vanilla. I am flying with Zibo right now, so I will try it when I land in Atlanta.

Here is what I am seeing: https://imgur.com/a/uFZxLAi

I actually had that happen to me when I first bought XP12. I installed all regions, but it seemed that they were under water, including KORD. So I had to wait and eventually the appropriate files just downloaded on their own. I haven't had that happen since. I am on the latest Beta.

Hmmmm... Thanks for checking it out for me! That's why I waited before I made a report. That airport is important to me, so I may have to dig to see what files I need to delete and reinstall via Steam... Don't feel like deleting EVERYTHING. Yet. 😉

Hi all, I am a fairly casual XP12 user as most of my time is spent in MSFS (and once in a long while, in P3D v6)... So I am not sure what the protocol for submitting bugs is, but in XP 12, TJVQ (Antonio Rivera Airport) in Vieques, PR has a HUGE dip in its only runway. This wasn't present in XP11 and I use that airport to fly circuits with GA aircraft as one of my homes is in Vieques, PR. I was wondering how one would go about submitting this. If anyone else could confirm this issue for me as well, it would be appreciated. I run vanilla XP 12 with no addons (except B747 and A350 aircraft)... Your help is greatly appreciated.

I think Majestic may have to actually update their aircraft to make it play nice with this new P3D

Finally! During the day, just, dusk, and dawn the illumination lights in the cockpit actually work now! That remedies the pitch black cockpits on default aircraft. Finally, they are flyable. Tested on Commander and Mooney Acclaim and Electra. The Electra is a little dark but doable for the most part! Now we are taking!!!

Does Manfred Jahn work in v6?

Yeah, it's a thing that pops up shortly before the installer finishes. You did the right thing - it thinks you may be uninstalling permanently. Let me know what you think! Please hop into a Commander or Electra at dawn and dusk.

The tone control settings do help, yes... They also kind of make the outside not as attractive as before. Regardless, the "default" settings by LM SHOULD work. If they don't, they should tweak them... in any case, this is making P3D v6 problematic. Forget vendor support, etc... this is just vanilla sim with these issues. I don't know how it got past initial testing. Do you not see these issues in your sim?

We are still here with bugs. Yes, the gauges are lit up. But the cockpit is still pitch black. I am NOT asking for P3D to be MSFS, but I am wondering how LM is accepting these deficiencies in a VANILLA version with VANILLA aircraft. How is this acceptable?