BostonJeremy77

It's what LR have been talking about as the next step towards the new gen scenery. First of all, it would enable them to implement anti-aliasing in a way that's way better than what is currently offered in the sim. I don't quite understand the tech behind it, but I do know that this is the big step they are working on.

To be fair, this looks dreadful. The blocky deformed trees etc that I loathe in MSFS don't need to make their way to XP. At this point in tech, photogrammetry doesn't need to be in flight sims, IMO.

Thank you for that!

All kinds. Mostly 3rd party higher fidelity jets. Why does that matter? This is more of a sim function than anything else.

Speaking of which... What is the command to Attach jetway? I used to have it at Ctrl-J but I can't seem to find any command for that in 2024, so if the plane's EFB doesn't have jetway toggle, I can't attach them usually (I don't use default ATC - it's BATC for me)

The profile is, I believe... take off with Reheat on, then turn them off for noise abatement. Then after 10,000, turn the reheats on, accelerate to 350 knots and FL280. That should put you at FL280 at Mach .95. Reheats go off and cruise with that until over water. Then reheats back on and max climb to 60,000 with reheats on. Reheats come off at Mach 1.7 You should be around FL500 when you reach Mach 2.0. From there on, it's Max Climb/Max Cruise to 60,000 with reheats off at Mach 2.02.

Honestly, the thing about the Concorde that I can't quite grip yet are the fuel tanks. There are 11. I am sure Ray P is the local resident expert on it. Because of that, I have to use auto-trim. Don't quite have the knowledge to manually trim for various levels of flight. I finally did get an idea of how to use INS navigation, thanks to the iniBuilds TriStar that kind of holds your hand through it, but also lets you take over as you get more comfortable. The Concorde fuel system is another thing to learn. But that's for another day!

There is also a phenomenal Heritage mod for it that takes it a lot more into "study level" realm.

No no... BATC injects FSLTL models, that's all. But previously, when I tried to do it, things would be fine for about 5 minutes while setting things up at the gate, then would tank into 15 FPS. Disabling traffic remedied that, only for it to get worse at touchdown when arriving. Now? Smooth as butter. Nothing really changed. I basically changed ONE setting I didn't touch before - LOD. Then I changed it back and things are fine. I actually put volumetric clouds on Ultra too and it's still fine. I am pretty happy cause I was really disappointed when it was happening.

It was actually fine... Also, with this one, I think something with LOD settings was off. Cause I was able to increase them back to 150 and it's 80-90 FPS now no problem with BATC and FSLTL traffic injected... So maybe something was messed up in that one setting and it just needed to be changed and then changed back. So weird. 2024 is full of mysteries sometimes.

I THINK I made some progress with this. It seems the only culprit is Terrain LOD. At 150 it was creating this mess. I lowered to 120 and was able to put most settings between High and Ultra and things seem to be OK so far. Trying a flight with MD-11 right now but so far, everything is smoother. I discovered that by taking a 737 for a pattern on Medium and all was OK. After that I increased everything to High and Ultra and upped the LOD to 120. STILL OK... so, apparently that 30 made a difference?

Hi all, I am incredibly frustrated with MSFS 2024 right now. I used to run it on my 5 year old Predator Helios 300 laptop at pretty much medium settings and was always able to squeeze decent enough performance on all of my aircraft and airports (PMDG, Fenix, MD-11, iniBuilds etc) at pretty much respectable level. It was an ancient laptop with an i7-10750H CPU, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, a 512Gb SSD drive, and an RTX 2060 with 6 GB VRAM. It was running at native 1080p. I figured it was time to upgrade anyway, so I got myself an MSI Vector laptop with an Intel Core Ultra 7 255HX, 32 GB DDR5 RAM, and a RTX 5070Ti with 12 GB VRAM. And it runs absolutely atrociously! I am running 2x DLSS FG, DLAA, most settings on High, but I even disabled all traffic AND all parked aircraft and vehicles and personnel at the airports and what is killing me is what happens after every landing. During camera panning I get stutters/delays, but the flight itself and the initial taxi at the originating airport are fine. FPS are around 50-90... With PMDG 737 on the last one it was averaging 50 with FG. AS SOON as you touch down in ANY aircraft, be it Fenix, PMDG, iniBuilds, whatever, the frames drop to about 3-4 FPS and it becomes a slide show and I inevitably crash into something because at that point, the aircraft is unresponsive to anything. What is happening? Why? This thing literally has twice the VRAM and a newer CPU, and twice the RAM! I have Raymarching Shadows disabled (and reflections)... Pretty much all settings on High, and this is still an issue. I am absolutely blown away by this. As a sidenote, I didn't seem to experience it in a laptop I bought a few days ago that died the first night (video card burned out - during software installation of all things! It was literally dead on the first day). That one was Intel Core Ultra 9 275 HX (so a little faster), but only 16GB RAM, and a 5080 with 16GB VRAM...) That one didn't seem to struggle. But there wasn't another one available to exchange for, so I read that 7 is actually not gonna make that much difference against a 9, and 12 GB VRAM should be fine too... plus it only had 16 GB RAM, which to me was more problematic than anything. Here's the screenshots I took during the last flight and what is happening. I am not too up to date with computer tech and what's happening, so perhaps someone could demystify this for me and perhaps offer a solution? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C76neWz9uTHvcJb2rginnq_3lXtMzoBk/view?usp=drive_link https://drive.google.com/file/d/141VgEp-i962a-uQvF7RJSx6YQ8RDXGIv/view?usp=drive_link

Hey there... Check this out... 3DGrass XP12-3DGrass-12 Any thoughts? Considering picking this up, because it looks nice in the video. Just not sure how much this will tank the performance... so kinda have my reservations about it.

The clouds won't be as good as XP12, but make sure to set the clouds to Ultra. That helped a lot. Even if the rest of the sim is in lower settings, set clouds to Ultra. They were looking extra cartoonish compared to XP12 until I set them to Ultra. They are a lot better now. I can finally enjoy 2024 without feeling the clouds ruin everything.

THAT... For all the nonsense about Ryanair pilots on the internet, they are actually doing it right. For one, a 737 likes to be planted down firmly. This comes from several 73 pilots I talk to every day - all the systems that are responsible for braking are dependent on the main wheels touchdown, so it's important to make that happen rather than risking floating half way down just to "butter" it and then have no room to stop. Especially, considering some fields that bird flies into (MDW, DCA) that don't allow luxury of long runways. So, it turns out that the Ryanair pilots are actually doing it right - consider the company's impeccable safety record.

Unfortunately I don't know of anyone even working on it. But in XP12, we have a -200 coming in early June! I am pretty excited about it, because I enjoyed it a lot in XP11 and this is a new version. The only 73 that was meant to land on gravel strips!

This stuff on MP is nothing new. It was this way since it started in 2020. I bought the first few MScenery releases when I used to review aircraft on the MSFS Forum. And I was absolutely disgusted it. So, I see nothing ever changed, it just got worse. Thankfully, it seems more people are aware now and avoid MP as much as they can. I will only buy things on it that I KNOW I want and can't get elsewhere, like the TriStar I am gonna buy this week.

So I literally spent the last couple of days catching up with what 24 has been up to in a year since I left it be, and it has progressed quite well. Found myself a new toy: the great iniBuilds A350 as well as FlyByWire's A380. Good parts: I always fly in live weather and what a day yesterday was for it! I left sunny San Francisco at 7 am or so and went up going to Denver and they just so happened to have a gnarly and snowy day in MAY! I had to do an Autoland because the visibility was just that poor. I technically could have landed it because about 2 seconds before minimums I DID see the runway, but it was too late to oversaturate myself with tasks. From there on it was on to Chicago, where the weather was great. It only went downhill from there. Boston was hairy in some rainstorms and some thunderstorms, but luckily the 85 knot wind blew them in the other direction for me to arrive into a drenched city but under relatively calm skies. From there there was a track to Atlanta and that's where it went awful. I WAS flying the A380 which had NO weather radar and it was ALL thunderstorms and lightning on the entire descent and landing. Finally, a track to Miami where the light of dawn met me as I landed in a calm dawn hours. It was a whole day of flying and it was great (I spent a week in a hospital after a surgery, so I am recuperating at home which is what allowed me such madness mid-week!) The weather depiction and the clouds are MUCH better. I, of course, realized one thing about MSFS2024. I was complaining about its clouds while running on Medium settings. They just didn't compare to XP12. Once I put the clouds on Ultra, it completely transformed them. I was able to also put trees, grass, and buildings on High because Frame Generation allowed me that and the iniBuilds deals with it well. I was running 40 FPS with it on and it made a great difference. The bad: I started off with Live Traffic and ATC on and ended up the last two legs without either. The stupidity of it was just too annoying. I always had Multiplayer turned off because it annoyed me seeing people do stupid stuff, but Live Traffic was pulling shenanigans left and right. ATC was also not managing them well. I was holding short of my runway and she allowed 4 aircraft behind me to plow over me and give them priority. Then she FINALLY cleared me for take off (right about I was about to say oh well and do it anyway)... and IMMEDIATELY after she cleared me, she also cleared the guy behind me, so as I was lining up, he ran me over. I can't deal with that. I'd rather fly in an empty world with no other aircraft than suffer this nonsense. So I turned them both off... Not to mention, ATC failed to descend me on the leg before and I had to ask for altitude decreases, but then they didn't clear me for landing either. At least in XP12 there is a Ready for Descent command where I can ask for it and they will always give it to me. Maybe I remember it with rose-coloured glasses, but I think ATC in 2020 was WAY better and the way live traffic actually worked was better. I wonder why 24 is so much worse in that regard. I have plans to get the TriStar, some new other toys (iFly MAX)... but the sim is doing better. Tried career mode. It's still a bit of a circus. Biggest issue is pushback because those tugs just don't work right (god how I wish MSFS had Better Pushback from XP12), ATC and its lack of logic, and taxiing on the ground it just atrocious sometimes compared to XP. Also, the default airports are a joke and even non-default ones - O'Hare had taxiway markings LITERALLY in the MIDDLE of them, like right on the yellow line. And that one is bespoke. In general, I can't wait to leave the ground. Everything about MSFS airports annoys me. But the nature, trees, environments, are always top notch. Aircraft in the air behave way better than on the ground. Kinda happy to be back at this! But the good news is that I am likely back to splitting my time between XP12 and MSFS 50/50 as I used to back in the day.

Definitely first day buyer here. It's the only -200 in any sims right now.

I have seen it too.

I will throw my two cents in. I used to run Map Enhancement and SimHeaven and Global Forests. I remember it being punishing on performance (for my laptop) so I don’t do it. I simply am running default XP12 with XASnow plugin and that’s good enough for me until LR provides a different scenery. If I want Orthos, I can always power up MSFS. The beauty of XP is that right now it runs independent of constant internet connection (besides live weather)… I believe LR has some ideas of how they want to do it and I don’t think it will be by streaming orthos. I will let them cook their magic and use XP12 for its wonderful flight model and environmental depiction. And when I am itching to explore places and see what they look like in real life, I can always boot up MSFS24 for that. That’s where I stand right now.

Yeah, 2024 has improved since when I saw it last. Thankfully. I am thinking about picking up a couple of aircraft for it - haven't bought anything since iniBuilds released the A300 Premium for 2024. Namely, I want the A350 (which I have the FF A350 for XP12, but let's face it... it's not the best... thankfully them and Toliss are collaborating on a brand new version) and the iFly 737MAX (which isn't available for XP yet). I refuse to fly that default Asobo one (unless they improved it drastically). I still don't understand how loading passengers and cargo and fuel works through that EFB. Or why ATC has a prompt to Begin Boarding Passengers after I pushed back from the gate... A lot of it makes no sense, so as long as I can rely on 3rd party EFB to load things (iniBuilds default AC is good for that too), I should be OK. As far as antialiasing in XP, Laminar is working on motion vectors, which will enable them to roll out new antialising for XP. I don't have TDS GTNxi for XP mainly because I don't have any AC that would use it. On 2024, I use it with FSS Boeing 727. I mostly fly airliners, since if I want to fly GA, I can just hop in my Cessna and do the real thing. It's not often that airliners would use GTNxi. I am wondering if that new TriStar is worth picking up too. Anything else in terms of airliners in 2024 that I missed? I do have the FSS Embraer 175 and JustFlight BAE146 and that old Fokker one.

It's plenty! I am running on 2060 with 6 and it's one of the best performing airliners there. Better performing than 757 and 767.

So, I hopped back into MSFS 2024 today. It's better than it was a year ago. Honestly, as far as performance goes, it blows XP12 away... Granted, I am running on a 6 yr old laptop, but I can manage 50 FPS on Medium settings with Volumetric Clouds set to Ultra (otherwise they look terrible)... Took me an hour to set up controls again. The key is to avoid default planes because loading them via tablet used to be a nightmare. Flew one flight with Fenix and one with PMDG 777. I may get a new aircraft or two and mess around with it more. Always had it since day one (bought the $200 Aviator Edition). Good to see it's making progress. It still doesn't match my XP12 experience, even though I only get 25-30 FPS on it. Even ATC has gotten somewhat better, though again.. doesn't compare to XP12 default. I am REALLY missing Better Pushback. For the third flight, set up the 777 for 45 mins just to have the pushback tug get stuck at an angle unable to push the aircraft. So I rage quit. 🙂 Back to XP for tonight.

Thank you for a very in-depth explanation. I am not versed in development these days (back in early 90s, I used to know C and Pascal - two obscure things that have gone away a long time ago)... Had NO idea that Gizmo was more than just DRM. That makes sense now. Good to hear about the DC-3 getting a new version eventually! And DC-3 IS an Airliner to me! 🙂 An early one, but... in the 1940s those WERE the airliners people actually flew on.