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Installing Linux for X-Plane

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38 minutes ago, BiologicalNanobot said:

Second this, I am still unable to see how a different operating system can make performance better. It is literally the same machine code. The only potential performance difference might be caused by graphics driver implementations, which is again not about the operating system.

I hope you are wrong after all this bother. The whole point is to get a massive FPS increase in XP. That's what I was led to believe?

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6 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Yup. But I can't find it. I'll contact LR and see what they say....

On my PC it's F11 but if you don't press it it boots to Windows which is ideal. So Linux has 1TB of independent space. 

It def has to be in your emaill , you should have recv an invoice ?

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1 hour ago, HumptyDumpty said:

That's what I said , they will be visible when mounted or when set in fstab , else they won't be visible as a mounted disk. 

Yes, sorry, I read a bit fast. 🙂

 

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3 minutes ago, HumptyDumpty said:

It def has to be in your emaill , you should have recv an invoice ?

Ages ago. Nothing now that old on my PC or anywhere else I don't think. OK I see how to search further back....

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6 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Ages ago. Nothing now that old on my PC or anywhere else I don't think. OK I see how to search further back....

Better find your serial else you will be limited in KSEA for 15 mins only. 

Its been very long since i have used XP in linux , what i found was it was much smoother that's about it. Your mileage may very though.

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1 minute ago, HumptyDumpty said:

Better find your serial else you will be limited in KSEA for 15 mins only. 

Its been very long since i have used XP in linux , what i found was it was much smoother that's about it. Your mileage may very though.

Wow!!!!! LR has an automatic licence key retrieval service. You just enter your email and it's emailed instantly. Superb customer service. Here we go then....

16 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Wow!!!!! LR has an automatic licence key retrieval service. You just enter your email and it's emailed instantly. Superb customer service. Here we go then....

Nice ! didn't know about it,  

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7 minutes ago, HumptyDumpty said:

Nice ! didn't know about it,  

Installing as I type. Two hours to go because the drive is so slow. Nowwww.... how do I import all my addons (or at least some) from my windows install? I guess I need to mount the XP drive? When I unmount it I'm hoping it won't erase everything?

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8 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Installing as I type. Two hours to go because the drive is so slow. Nowwww.... how do I import all my addons (or at least some) from my windows install? I guess I need to mount the XP drive? When I unmount it I'm hoping it won't erase everything?

are you using a digital install directly from the CDN or is it through a DVD ?

Just mount that XP drive from the file manager and copy paste , and NO IT WON"T DO ANYTHING WRONG ! 

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3 minutes ago, HumptyDumpty said:

are you using a digital install directly from the CDN or is it through a DVD ?

Just mount that XP drive from the file manager and copy paste , and NO IT WON"T DO ANYTHING WRONG ! 

Digital download. Download speed is fine. The speed of the usb drive isn't.

Could I create shortcuts for everything I want? I know some things are incompatible.

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6 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Digital download. Download speed is fine. The speed of the usb drive isn't.

Could I create shortcuts for everything I want? I know some things are incompatible.

Can't confirm about Shortcuts never needed them. 

It would probably depend on the desktop environment. 

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1 hour ago, mSparks said:

Not even close. Windows, at its heart, is still the same Windows NT kernel released in 1993.

I am not talking about the operating system, I am talking about the application itself. Other than system calls, the resulting binary is almost the same regardless of the target operating system. While developing an hobby OS, one of the first things I noticed was lack of involvement of the operating system during an user-space application execution... with the exception of system calls.

However, applications usually avoid doing system calls as much as possible, as they are inefficient regardless of the operating system - this is the way x86 architecture works. Many system calls require saving user-space application state (including CPU registers and floating point state using fxrstor) and switching back and forth between ring 3 and ring 0. While sysenter/sysexit or syscall/sysret instructions made things more efficient, the overhead is still significant. Therefore filesystem performance and other things have nothing to do with real-time performance of a game, as these operations are simply too heavy to be done real-time. What determines the game performance is the game itself (how efficient its code is) and the graphics driver, which is mostly the only thing the game is interacting with during rendering.

Also, with the same logic, current Linux kernel (iirc the latest stable version is 5.10) is the same Linux kernel at its heart when it was first released, or X-Plane 11 is just X-Plane 9 with some updates and so on.

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I think I've installed the latest Nvidia drivers? The file was only 170mb? Is there a control panel?

1 hour ago, jarmstro said:

I hope you are wrong after all this bother. The whole point is to get a massive FPS increase in XP. That's what I was led to believe?

TBH

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Is the least of the benefits. 50fps, 100fps, you wont really notice the difference

Personally I rate

And being able to crank up the settings for the same performance way above the fps increase.

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Been looking online as I wait and have found that most of my enhancement addons are not compatible. Traffic Global. Active Sky. X-Enviro. GT750. Not sure I can live without them. There's probably others.

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