When I used to fly in P3D, whenever I pressed Pause button for TrackIR, the view reset itself to 0 position (level and straight). Now in MSFS when I press the TrackIR Pause button the view just pauses wherever it is and stays there. So if I lean forward, because the Pause button is F9 on the keyboard the view gets totally messed up, it's very unpractical. This is happening on completely new machine with fresh install of Windows and MSFS, Do you experience the same or does your view snap back to 0 when you pause TrackIR?

Edited February 28, 20215 yr by Tomaz Drnovsek

2 minutes ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

When I used to fly in P3D, whenever I pressed Pause button for TrackIR, the view reset itself to 0 position (level and straight). Now in MSFS when I press the TrackIR Pause button the view just pauses wherever it is and stays there. So if I lean forward, because the Pause button is F9 on the keyboard the view gets totally messed up, it's very unpractical. This is happening on completely new machine with fresh install of Windows and MSFS, Do you experience the same or does your view snap back to 0 when you pause TrackIR?

No, it does not snap back like it did in P3d. It stays where you paused it. 

Same thing in both P3D and MSFS. However I like that the view stays where I pause in MSFS making it easier to turn dials, flip switches when overdone turbulence throws the plane up, down, all-around.

2 minutes ago, Twenty6 said:

Same thing in both P3D and MSFS. However I like that the view stays where I pause in MSFS making it easier to turn dials, flip switches when overdone turbulence throws the plane up, down, all-around.

How do you reset the view if you don't use TrackIR in cruise for example and you just want a straight view out of the cockpit?

It snapped back for as long as I can remember. Is this a bug or a feature?

1 minute ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

How do you reset the view if you don't use TrackIR in cruise for example and you just want a straight view out of the cockpit?

I use the F key

25 minutes ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

How do you reset the view if you don't use TrackIR in cruise for example and you just want a straight view out of the cockpit?

 

You can use the Camera dropdown window Pilot views but there seems to be a bug where nothing happens unless you choose a different view (like co-pilot) and then choose pilot view.

2 hours ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

whenever I pressed Pause button for TrackIR, the view reset itself to 0 position (level and straight).

 

In the beginning MSFS handled TrackIR exactly like that. Just like you, I liked it that way. Others did not, got vocal on the forums and all of a sudden Asobo considered it a bug that needed to be fixed. They didn't even make it an option. So now we have this:

 

2 hours ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

 Now in MSFS when I press the TrackIR Pause button the view just pauses wherever it is and stays there. So if I lean forward, because the Pause button is F9 on the keyboard the view gets totally messed up, it's very unpractical. 

 

Here is how I solved it for me:

I use FSUIPC to assign the key I assigned in TrackIR for "Center" to a joystick button as "to be sent when you press this button", and to assign the key I assigned in TrackIR for "Pause" to the same joystick button as "to be sent when you release the button".

That way with a single press (and release) of the button, you reset the view and immediately pause TrackIR.

A double press of that button just resets the view and keeps TrackIR active (actually pausing and unpausing it in short sequence).

If (with TrackIR unpaused) you hold the button down while looking around and then release it, the view will stay in that position with TrackIR paused. You can then reset the view with another press of that button.

 

7 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

In the beginning MSFS handled TrackIR exactly like that. Just like you, I liked it that way. Others did not, got vocal on the forums and all of a sudden Asobo considered it a bug that needed to be fixed. They didn't even make it an option. So now we have this:

A bug? That's absurd. It worked like that for 10 years! I think it's a bug now, very unpractical behavior.

I guess I'll have to get FSUIPC then. To assign keys and buttons one needs a payware version. 

I very much prefer it the way it is currently. I would much rather look at what I want and then pause it there rather than have it snap forward center when I pause it (do not see the value in that). If you want to pause it forward center, then look forward center and hit the pause. What's so hard about that? You can also use any in sim view commands (zoom, look, camera, etc.) while it's paused.

The way you describe makes it impossible to focus on anything else (such as looking at the MFD and hitting pause so that the look isn't moving around while you manipulate the MFB with the mouse.

 

21 minutes ago, Phantoms said:

I very much prefer it the way it is currently. I would much rather look at what I want and then pause it there rather than have it snap forward center when I pause it (do not see the value in that). If you want to pause it forward center, then look forward center and hit the pause. What's so hard about that? You can also use any in sim view commands (zoom, look, camera, etc.) while it's paused.

The way you describe makes it impossible to focus on anything else (such as looking at the MFD and hitting pause so that the look isn't moving around while you manipulate the MFB with the mouse.

 

I used it the way I described for 10 years. I never had any issue focusing or doing whatever. I never paused it when I manipulate anything. The only time I paused it was when I temporarily stopped using TrackIR, like in the cruise or when I left the computer. In this case I just wanted a straight and level look out of the cockpit.

1 minute ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

I used it the way I described for 10 years. I never had any issue focusing or doing whatever. I never paused it when I manipulate anything. The only time I paused it was when I temporarily stopped using TrackIR, like in the cruise or when I left the computer. In this case I just wanted a straight and level look out of the cockpit.

Everyone used it that way and nobody complained about in all those  years...  Go figure. 

I for one like it this new way, where the view stays paused at that view. For example, I can look forward and down at the FMS and hit pause so that I can make entries into the FMS. It is very intuitive and the way it should have always been. 
 

If you have don’t have a mouse with an extra side thumb button or two, chuck it away and buy one. They are not expensive. Program a side thumb button on your mouse to freeze the Track IR view. I can whizz around the cockpit with Track IR, mouse clicking and freezing and unfreezing the view constantly to ensure precision clicks. Never moving my hand from the mouse and certainly not looking up to find F9 on the keyboard.

Try it, you will be loving the current system in seconds.

1 hour ago, RaptyrOne said:

I for one like it this new way, where the view stays paused at that view. For example, I can look forward and down at the FMS and hit pause so that I can make entries into the FMS. It is very intuitive and the way it should have always been. 
 

If you have don’t have a mouse with an extra side thumb button or two, chuck it away and buy one. They are not expensive. Program a side thumb button on your mouse to freeze the Track IR view. I can whizz around the cockpit with Track IR, mouse clicking and freezing and unfreezing the view constantly to ensure precision clicks. Never moving my hand from the mouse and certainly not looking up to find F9 on the keyboard.

Try it, you will be loving the current system in seconds.

If you want to adjust something, you look at it with track IR and hit pause. It stays right where you were looking until you unpause it. The way it used to work, was when you unpaused it went back to the normal straight ahead cockpit view. Usually after you adjusted something, you wanted to resume your default view from the cockpit. That was nice, the way it is now sucks. 

2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

 The way it used to work, was when you unpaused it went back to the normal straight ahead cockpit view.

That is never how it worked in MSFS. The way it worked before was when you paused it then it stayed where you were looking for 1-2 seconds and then popped to the straight ahead view. When you unpaused it then it popped to where you hand your head pointing.

The way it works now is it stays where you were looking when you pause it. When you unpause it, it jumps to where you are currently looking.

It would be a pain if it jumped to straight ahead when you unpaused it as you would then have to use the key you have assigned to recenter it each time after unpausing it.

I don't see the problem with how it works now. If you paused it while looking straight ahead then it stays looking straight ahead. If you pause it while looking at an instrument, then it stays looking at the instrument. While it's paused you can use different camera views, drag your view around, zoom in and out, use the reset view button, etc.

If you want it straight ahead for cruise then pause it while looking straight ahead. TrackIR allows you to assign keys/buttons/switches for pause, center, precision and even profile so perhaps you could make a profile to switch to that is set up for dead center ahead and assign it to a key, mouse or controller button.

 

Edited March 1, 20215 yr by Phantoms