According to the new (still under construction) Next Gen Simulations website, their Embraer EMB-110 Bandeirante may be released for MSFS next month.

If you don't know this developer, they've made quite a few airport sceneries and a pretty nice Cessna 525 Citation for FSX and P3D which while it used some default avionics for its Collins PFDs, was notable for having a really great manual and being a pretty nice add-on for its modest price.

Thanks, definitely one to keep an eye on since there is no sign of the Saab S340 at the moment. 

Just now, Donka said:

Thanks, definitely one to keep an eye on since there is no sign of the Saab S340 at the moment. 

Embraer's Bandeirante is probably more akin to the Twin Otter and the Do 228. It was replaced in the mid 80s by the larger Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia, which is more of a contemporary to the Saab S340.

What will be interesting to see, is how the modeling of the engines compares to the Virtualcol Beech 99's PT6A-27. The Bandeirante uses the exact same engine as the Beech 99, and both of these add-ons will be in a fairly similar price range.

Yup, flew them all in XP11. A big fan of this type of aircraft. The Twin Otter will likely be my most flown aircraft once it’s released but any others will be a nice bonus. 

1 hour ago, Chock said:

According to the new (still under construction) Next Gen Simulations website, their Embraer EMB-110 Bandeirante may be released for MSFS next month.

Is there any indication they are modeling their own GPS and AP functions?  Or working with a 3rd party on those?

This is good news, the Turboprop landscape is pretty bare.

23 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Is there any indication they are modeling their own GPS and AP functions?  Or working with a 3rd party on those?

I would think it will be using default stuff, with some tweaks, based on what was in their 525. Having said that, it is just a guess because I know they mentioned awaiting the MSFS SDK for some stuff last year when they commenced development of this thing.

I suspect  it will be worth having as their P3D 525 was, and I daresay they might have shoe-horned their 525 into MSFS if they hadn't been unfortunate enough to have been a developer whose one aeroplane product they made for FSX and P3D, was one that came as a default aeroplane in the new sim - doh! - so I'm guessing this Bandeirante will be a similarly pitched product to that.

I would not pin all your hopes on it being some kind of super-accurate thing in terms of GPS avionics out of the box; it's not likely to be where they are aiming it price-wise. That said, that's not stopped some of the default MSFS aeroplanes from being tarted up in this regard, so I might be doing them a disservice because it would appear their are no shortage of modders willing to dive in on this kind of thing, so who knows?

Edited March 22, 20215 yr by Chock

1 minute ago, Chock said:

I would not pin all your hopes on it being some kind of super-accurate thing in terms of GPS avionics out of the box;

Believe this has to do with the foundation of the sim, not with a 3rd party offering.  Sad if realism continues to lag.

Just now, fppilot said:

Believe this has to do with the foundation of the sim, not with a 3rd party offering.  Sad if realism continues to lag.

Well, if we're honest, most other flight sims have to have that tarted up too, so it ain't a problem limited to MSFS, otherwise there wouldn't be - to my knowledge off the top of my head - at least five different add-on GPS products you can get for FSX/P3D, and numerous sources for updating the nav data in them too.

What will drive it to change in the base sim, is the arrival of the higher end payware add-on airliners for MSFS and pressure from those developers, and by that I mean the iFlys, Majestics, Leonardos, FSLs, PMDGs, A2As etc. Because nobody is going to pay 150 quid for a PMDG airliner for MSFS which can't do what a fifty quid iFly 737 NG can do in a 20 quid copy of FSX, and especially when we all already own those things.

1 hour ago, Chock said:

Well, if we're honest, most other flight sims have to have that tarted up too, so it ain't a problem limited to MSFS, otherwise there wouldn't be - to my knowledge off the top of my head - at least five different add-on GPS products you can get for FSX/P3D, and numerous sources for updating the nav data in them too.

What will drive it to change in the base sim, is the arrival of the higher end payware add-on airliners for MSFS and pressure from those developers, and by that I mean the iFlys, Majestics, Leonardos, FSLs, PMDGs, A2As etc. Because nobody is going to pay 150 quid for a PMDG airliner for MSFS which can't do what a fifty quid iFly 737 NG can do in a 20 quid copy of FSX, and especially when we all already own those things.

The issue with MSFS is the withholding of an SDK that would allow the proven developers to provide what we need.  The proverbial NIHS.

 

Just now, fppilot said:

The issue with MSFS is the withholding of an SDK that would allow the proven developers to provide what we need.  The proverbial NIHS.

The National Intercollegiate Horse Show is withholding the SDK? Why those fiends!

It’s all in the title, Embraer EMB 110 coming soon to MSFS, by NextGen Simulations.

https://nextgensim.com.co/blog/index.php/2021/03/18/development-update-q1-2021/

I hope that thing looks better then that atrocious website. Resolution of the screenshots is way too low too really see what is going on. From what I can see it doesn't look too pretty. 

I posted a thread here about this earlier this week. There's a bigger screenshot on that.

As I noted in that post, the website is under construction, and only went live the other day, so give them a bit of time.

Graphically, the thing is probably akin to their P3D 525, possibly a bit improved, which was pretty inexpensive but looked nice for all that and had pretty good sounds. Systems-wise, their 525 erred on the 'lite' side of things, although it did have a replication of Collins Pro-Line avionics based on the default capabilities of P3D, so whilst it didn't do everything, it was a good stab at it for the price.

Their 525 also had one of the best PDF manuals I've seen in a long time, much better than anything any of the big sim developers normally manage, which added a lot of worth to the product in featuring a truly excellent tutorial flight teaching inexperienced simmers about FMCs and airways. It assumed nothing, but wasn't condescending at all in its tone, nor overly-wordy, just really well written and straight to the point in showing you what you needed to know to create and execute an airways flight plan in an FMC.

For that manual alone, even regardless of the product itself, they scored some big points with me personally as far as product support goes, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with their Bandeirante.

Edited March 24, 20215 yr by Chock