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45 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

GeForce RTX 3080 Ti price, release date surfaces (guru3d.com)

By the time they hit the stores they will more likely go for 1500 or more.

Hit the stores?  I suspect they're going to resemble electronic virga...you know, the rain that evaporates before ever reaching the ground.

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Just like all the other 3xxx releases, the limited supply will be scooped up by system building companies, cryptocurrency miners, and scalpers.

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the 3xxx series cards seem to be hot property now. Ive got offers way above what i had paid ( i bought my 3090 for a significant markup of close to $2500 equivalent). I will not sell though. I really love the raw power of the card. I had to actually upgrade my UPS to keep up.( requires a 1500va min)

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Anyone else remember the days when $300-400 would net you the top dog card?

17 hours ago, Greggy_D said:

Anyone else remember the days when $300-400 would net you the top dog card?

Yes, of course I also remember having a 3Dfx Voodoo 3 that fit into an AGP 2X slot.

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23 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

I believe the 3080Ti push to release is driven by a declining bitcoin market even though nVidia are once again claiming they will prevent the GPU's from running blockchain calcs (and then leak drivers that circumvent it like they did before).

The good news is that AMD RNA3 will outperform nVidia even on Ray Tracing (which is one of the reasons nVidia needed to release the 3080Ti) and RNA3 is 2.5X more powerful than the current AMD 6900XT.  On the power side it's 50% more efficient than nVidia's 3090.  This IS good for competition and desperately needed as I think both YT reviewers and customers are getting rather annoyed of nVidia's manipulation.

More good news is that Bitcoin is tumbling down (again) and lost 20% of it's value in just 13 days.  Given that crypto-mining runs on a fine line of power consumption costs to "coin" return, many miners can't sustain any sort of long term drop in crypto-currency and there is no sign of "recovery".  This will likely flood the market with used GPUs and people might even be able to get one below retail.

So there is some hope, not so much that nVidia can deliver supply, but that crypto-mining is and will continue to decline rather rapidly.

Cheers, Rob.

Not sure in what world you think greater than 5X-10X ROI is a fine line of cost/price.

I hope you're not holding your breath waiting for crypto mining to decline "rapidly" (or at all, for that matter). Bitcoin after it's 20% drop is still 10X the price it was a year ago. While crypto mining is sensitive to cost\return (as is any asset), as of Nov. 2020 it cost $5,000-$8,000 to mine a single bitcoin in the U.S. Sounds steep, until you consider depending on the country, electricity cost could be a fraction of what it is in the U.S. I'm not a fan or a foe, but I'd be willing to bet the average price of bitcoin over the next 10 years will be higher, and probably considerably higher than it is today.

Here's an interesting site showing cost/kWh/country - conclusion: crypto mining is going nowhere.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/electricity_prices/

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No one is mining BTC off a graphics card anyway.  It's ETH and others you should be watching

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