I’ve been away from MSFS for a while and decided to take a quick flight out of the new KCLE freeware. The airport looks great but downtown Cleveland still has that melted building prehistoric look. I didn’t see anything recent at the MSFS forums about this but was wondering if anyone knows if this can or will ever be fixed. From some of the earlier discussion about this issue, there were questions as to whether this can ever be resolved. I know that the buildings look okay within a very close radius but most approaches don’t get close enough to the buildings, so my approaches look ugly for the most part.

Cheers, Pete

You should see the buildings in Death Valley...they recently set an all time high temp since recorded time...think is was 130 something.  I think they actually melted! 🤣

 

Seriously though, I have not seen a solution to that phenomenon posted anywhere.  I "think" you can turn off photogramy to address it I recall reading, but you lose a lot of scenery detail I think.

Cleveland looks fine on my PC maybe your data connection slowed?

26 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

You should see the buildings in Death Valley...they recently set an all time high temp since recorded time...think is was 130 something.  I think they actually melted! 🤣

 

Seriously though, I have not seen a solution to that phenomenon posted anywhere.  I "think" you can turn off photogramy to address it I recall reading, but you lose a lot of scenery detail I think.

Lol! I’m glad I don’t live there! I think my wife would literally melt, she hates the heat. I have tried turning off the photogrammetry before but then the city looks generic. 

Cheers, Pete

20 minutes ago, Todd2 said:

Cleveland looks fine on my PC maybe your data connection slowed?

I actually have very fast internet, but now I’m wondering if my kids constantly playing on line video games is causing issues. I may need to check during that small window that they actually sleep.

Cheers, Pete

14 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

I actually have very fast internet, but now I’m wondering if my kids constantly playing on line video games is causing issues. I may need to check during that small window that they actually sleep.

Cheers, Pete

Latency (ms) can be an issue if you are on wifi with other users.

1 minute ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Latency (ms) can be an issue if you are on wifi with other users.

I suppose that may very well be the issue. I think my kids will need to find a new hobby.

Cheers, Pete

21 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

I actually have very fast internet, but now I’m wondering if my kids constantly playing on line video games is causing issues. I may need to check during that small window that they actually sleep.

Cheers, Pete

You could try manually casching the DT Cleveland area in high detail! I do that for DT areas and then do the outlying areas at medium detail. This also cuts back on streaming/loading stutters when flying an approach into the area. 

1 minute ago, liamp51 said:

You could try manually casching the DT Cleveland area in high detail! I do that for DT areas and then do the outlying areas at medium detail. This also cuts back on streaming/loading stutters when flying an approach into the area. 

I wasn’t aware of this option, can you explain how to do this?

Cheers, Pete

Pete,

good instructions on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRdaqyOGkE

Melted buildings are due to slow connection on your end or server end...

5 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

There are a few possibilities:

1.  Your ISP, run a SpeedTest to a local major hub and see what you get.

2.  Most likely it's a server side limits configured by MS when under heavy loads ... not your kids, but other MSFS users hitting the same servers.

3.  If you are running a modified LOD in your UserCfg.opt file which can trigger server side limits.

4.  Running background tasks like a Win10 update or virus scan

I've ran into this problem many times also, it will vary from day to day and time of day.  I have a 1.2Gbps connection and only 3 hours away from Redmond, but to be honest I don't know what server I'll be hitting as I haven't monitored network activity.  But some days, it will be crystal clear high resolution and other days it doesn't matter how many times I fly around in a circle or pause the sim in hope Photogrammetry loads higher resolution into my Cache ... it just doesn't happen.

Cheers, Rob.

Good points. I just ran a test and my current download speed is 210 Mbps, but that is from my basement, and the router is two floors above. I usually get between 300 and 400 Mbps and have gotten as high as 700 Mbps. I don’t have any modified LOD (not even entirely certain as to what that is) but assume it’s level of detail? I don’t usually run any background programs either. I do think you are right that it may be different based upon varying times of day. Thanks for your input, it’s most appreciated. 

Cheers, Pete

Actually guys, Jorg said in one of the Q&As that they are aware of the poor photogrametry and are working to fix it.  He also said something about further enhancements on the Bing side as well.  Sounds like they're waiting to make it an all in one fix.

14 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Are you running wireless?

MS suggest "Ideal" bandwidth is 50 Mbps, so your 210 Mbps should be sufficient.

I just ran a quick speed test to Seattle and:

Here is image with Photogrammetry OFF:

Here is image with Photogrammetry ON:

It's not a bandwidth issue for me, I can't seem to get Arc de Triomphe to get any higher resolution projection.  At higher altitudes the "melted" look is not as noticeable.

If anyone has higher resolution of this area, I'd love to see it ... my reference point was the screen shot MSFS used to start with a few updates ago ... I have the same quality as the MSFS reference screenshot so I'm assuming this is as good as it's going to get for this location.

Cheers, Rob.

 

I run wireless in the basement. My other PC is next to my router so I can run that one wired, and sometimes get 700 to 800 Mbps. I guess it’s not a perfect science at this point so hopefully they get it all sorted out.

Cheers, Pete

2 hours ago, PilotPete99 said:

I run wireless in the basement. My other PC is next to my router so I can run that one wired, and sometimes get 700 to 800 Mbps. I guess it’s not a perfect science at this point so hopefully they get it all sorted out.

Cheers, 

Are you using a tree add on?  Microsoft had melted trees well.

28 minutes ago, gboz said:

Are you using a tree add on?  Microsoft had melted trees well.

Nope, no tree addons.

Cheers, Pete