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CTD Before Getting to Start Screen

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Just on a lark why not search for the nVidia related .dll file I mentioned earlier and do something to temporarily disable it.  I know its two totally different sims, but you never know... It sounds like an identical issue.  Would take about 10 minutes. You will need to use a search function to find it.  I have my hidden files displaying and I still only found it with a file search.

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25 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Just on a lark why not search for the nVidia related .dll file I mentioned earlier and do something to temporarily disable it.  I know its two totally different sims, but you never know... It sounds like an identical issue.  Would take about 10 minutes. You will need to use a search function to find it.  I have my hidden files displaying and I still only found it with a file search.

This is a good idea, especially considering I updated the Nvidia driver yesterday prior to firing up MSFS unsuccessfully. I will report back on my results,

Cheers, Pete

Pete Solov - Lake in the Hills 3CK

and Schaumburg Regional 06C
Proud AOPA Member - PPL 2001
Real World Piper Cherokee Pilot

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20 hours ago, bean_sprout said:

Also don't rule out file corruption which you can verify by reading the Windows logs.

To fix run a cmd window with admin privileges and type chkdsk /f on your MSFS drive.

When you restart Windows chkdsk will fix any lost clusters which could be part of a MSFS file(s)

Running the sim will then re-download any files affected by chkdsk if needed.

Follow up by doing a disk cleanup / optimization.

We had to run chkdsk alot with the early harddisks.

It won't hurt to run it in any case.

Good luck with it an have fun.

am not sure I know how to do this: "To fix run a cmd window with admin privileges and type chkdsk /f on your MSFS drive." Can you provide the steps? I think you are saying that I can specifically run a check on my MSFS Drive, but I am not familiar with how this is done.

Cheers, Pete

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Pete Solov - Lake in the Hills 3CK

and Schaumburg Regional 06C
Proud AOPA Member - PPL 2001
Real World Piper Cherokee Pilot

41 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

Am am not sure I know how to do this: "To fix run a cmd window with admin privileges and type chkdsk /f on your MSFS drive." Can you provide the steps? I think you are saying that I can specifically run a check on my MSFS Drive, but I am not familiar with how this is done.

Cheers, Pete

A little tricky - on the search bar (taskbar at bottom) type "cmd", then rightclick on the cmd result (top left results panel) and "run as administrator".  In the window type "chkdsk #: /f".   Replace the # with your MSFS drive letter which is usually "C".

When prompted to run after a restart type "Y" then enter.  Restart windows and checkdisk wil do it's thing.  

If anything needs fixing (probably not) you will be prompted again so type "Y" again.

I like to run chkdsk once a month to make sure nothing is out of wack but I run disk cleanup and optimize once a week usually.

Good luck

bs

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Just now, bean_sprout said:

A little tricky - on the search bar (taskbar at bottom) type "cmd", then rightclick on the cmd result (top right results panel) and "run as administrator".  In the window type "chkdsk #: /f".   Replace the # with your MSFS drive letter which is usually "C".

When prompted to run after a restart type "Y" then enter.  Restart windows and checkdisk wil do it's thing.  

If anything needs fixing (probably not) you will be prompted again so type "Y" again.

I like to run chkdsk once a month to make sure nothing is out of wack but I run disk cleanup and optimize once a week usually.

Good luck

bs

Thanks, I will try to follow that and see if it works for me. I am starting to think I am screwed. I’ve been following this issue on the MSFS Forum and there doesn’t seem to be a solution yet. This pretty much happened out of nowhere, and I’m thinking I will have to take a deep breath every time I try to start the program, assuming I get it to work at some point. It’s rather unfortunate that so many people are having problems with this software.

Cheers, Pete 

Pete Solov - Lake in the Hills 3CK

and Schaumburg Regional 06C
Proud AOPA Member - PPL 2001
Real World Piper Cherokee Pilot

1 minute ago, PilotPete99 said:

Thanks, I will try to follow that and see if it works for me. I am starting to think I am screwed. I’ve been following this issue on the MSFS Forum and there doesn’t seem to be a solution yet. This pretty much happened out of nowhere, and I’m thinking I will have to take a deep breath every time I try to start the program, assuming I get it to work at some point. It’s rather unfortunate that so many people are having problems with this software.

Cheers, Pete 

I know how yo feel - you will come upon the answer I'm sure.  This is the time it helps to have teenage kids that are into computers I think.  😃

Cheers

bs

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1 minute ago, bean_sprout said:

I know how yo feel - you will come upon the answer I'm sure.  This is the time it helps to have teenage kids that are into computers I think.  😃

Cheers

bs

Very True! My sons are pretty good at this stuff but this is even above their head.

Cheers, Pete

Pete Solov - Lake in the Hills 3CK

and Schaumburg Regional 06C
Proud AOPA Member - PPL 2001
Real World Piper Cherokee Pilot

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3 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

I know how yo feel - you will come upon the answer I'm sure.  This is the time it helps to have teenage kids that are into computers I think.  😃

Cheers

bs

I tried your solution but I am getting the following error:

"Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another process." 

Then it asks if I would like to force a dismount on this volume (no idea what that means).

Perhaps I am doing something wrong?

Cheers, Pete

Pete Solov - Lake in the Hills 3CK

and Schaumburg Regional 06C
Proud AOPA Member - PPL 2001
Real World Piper Cherokee Pilot

2 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

I tried your solution but I am getting the following error:

"Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another process." 

Then it asks if I would like to force a dismount on this volume (no idea what that means).

Perhaps I am doing something wrong?

Cheers, Pete

That's normal but you should get a Y/N prompt to run when windows restarts.  You want to type Y and enter and then restart windows.

bs

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1 hour ago, PilotPete99 said:

This is a good idea, especially considering I updated the Nvidia driver yesterday prior to firing up MSFS unsuccessfully. I will report back on my results,

Cheers, Pete

That sure sounds like it might be worth looking into... what about rolling back to an earlier driver?

Bert

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6 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

That sure sounds like it might be worth looking into... what about rolling back to an earlier driver?

Tried that earlier, and just ran the chkdsk command. I am out of ideas at this point. What a shame. I have no idea where to go from here but I know I am not the only one. I guess for now I’ll stick with P3d.

Cheers, Pete

Pete Solov - Lake in the Hills 3CK

and Schaumburg Regional 06C
Proud AOPA Member - PPL 2001
Real World Piper Cherokee Pilot

7 hours ago, Virtualpilot65 said:

Glenn,

After doing a search on that, I see there are a bunch of options for software to download to do this, as I have an NVIDIA card, what tool would you recommend? 

 

Thanks for the tip!

 

Ken

One option is to see if your card manufacturer provides tools to do it.

Otherwise the standard goto is probably MSI Afterburner.

3 hours ago, PilotPete99 said:

Tried that earlier, and just ran the chkdsk command. I am out of ideas at this point. What a shame. I have no idea where to go from here but I know I am not the only one. I guess for now I’ll stick with P3d.

Cheers, Pete

Was there any useful info in Windows Logs for Application Errors?  I would expect that you would see something.

bs

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7 hours ago, PilotPete99 said:

Tried that earlier, and just ran the chkdsk command. I am out of ideas at this point. What a shame. I have no idea where to go from here but I know I am not the only one. I guess for now I’ll stick with P3d.

Cheers, Pete

Before you give up..  have you got anything installed from the Marketplace..  other than the World Updates.

If so, uninstall all of those as well as emptying the community folder and try that after restarting your computer.   Things in the Marketplace go directly into core files rather than Community folder, but can still stuff up after an update..  eg on SU5  the A320 from Working Title was CTD'ing the sim for many people.

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5 hours ago, Moria15 said:

Before you give up..  have you got anything installed from the Marketplace..  other than the World Updates.

If so, uninstall all of those as well as emptying the community folder and try that after restarting your computer.   Things in the Marketplace go directly into core files rather than Community folder, but can still stuff up after an update..  eg on SU5  the A320 from Working Title was CTD'ing the sim for many people.

Graham

You may be onto something here. I reinstalled MSFS overnight, and everything started up and seemed okay. However, now I have a new problem. MSFS crashes while trying to install the deluxe pack from the content manager. I have about eight modules left to install (including world updates) but it won't get past the deluxe pack (I have the premium deluxe version). I am really at a loss at this point. I'll be honest, as nice as the graphics look, this program is annoying.

Cheers, Pete

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Pete Solov - Lake in the Hills 3CK

and Schaumburg Regional 06C
Proud AOPA Member - PPL 2001
Real World Piper Cherokee Pilot

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