31 minutes ago, liamp51 said:

Are you referring to IL-2? Oh man learning to gracefully taxi and take off in the 109 took a lot of practice! Ground loops for days!

IL2 in a 109 is where I learn to automatically react to wing dips with instant opposite rudder without even thing about it 😄

I think the problem is more with the controller than the FM.

For example when I twist my rudder controller in response to forces I feel, it will not let me apply a steadily increasing force, but rather responds in spurts.

What I need is an automated takeoff engineer, or an AI function that works for take-offs.  

And I would add, so far no amount of practice has worked for me in the IL-2 Bf109, but the autopilot takes off flawlessly. 

On 9/7/2021 at 10:59 PM, YoYo said:

 It isnt fixed in 1.19.8.0 😞

Wasn’t expected to be

2 hours ago, liamp51 said:

Are you referring to IL-2? Oh man learning to gracefully taxi and take off in the 109 took a lot of practice! Ground loops for days!

I was referring to x-plane, but il-2 does an even better job. Actually imh there are aspects of ground modelling in which I find lL-2 second to none...

1 hour ago, dobee51 said:

I think the problem is more with the controller than the FM.

For example when I twist my rudder controller in response to forces I feel, it will not let me apply a steadily increasing force, but rather responds in spurts.

What I need is an automated takeoff engineer, or an AI function that works for take-offs.  

And I would add, so far no amount of practice has worked for me in the IL-2 Bf109, but the autopilot takes off flawlessly. 

I can really recommend the VKB T-rudder Mk IV pedals. Never miss a take off in a 109 in IL2 with those... Or that tiny lead  adjustment to get the Mk 108s to land exactly where I want them to. 

It is worth noting that there is a slider now that lets you change the maximum rudder deflection by up to two degrees when you first load a flight.

Remeber, pls vote for fix! 🙂

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/bug-logged-flight-model-issue-during-take-off-and-acceleration-physics-on-the-ground/450382

Edited September 13, 20214 yr by YoYo

On 9/6/2021 at 1:24 PM, YoYo said:

So, is a topic about it on MSFS Forum, haw many votes has this issue? It start to drive me crazy sometime .... 😞

Thx!

Watched the video, normally a takeoff with GA planes should be avoided with 10/15kts wind. Also, a takeoff at 90kts with that light plane is unrealistic. However the ground physics should be adjusted by Asobo,

Edited September 13, 20214 yr by Claudius_

I remember read somewhere that Asobo aware and  working to rewrite ground physics

12 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

Watched the video, normally a takeoff with GA planes should be avoided with 10/15kts wind. Also, a takeoff at 90kts with that light plane is unrealistic. However the ground physics should be adjusted by Asobo,

As in the title, This is test to see better this effect on monitoring tool, not a training video, you can notice it also with 5kts or less even if you know better MSFS.

12 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

I remember read somewhere that Asobo aware and  working to rewrite ground physics

Maybe they’ll do some improvements before Reno DLC (November)? In the other case will be very fun if they will not do any changes before this DLC with high powered aircrafts. The half of race will crash on the ground ;)!

YoYo, I upvoted your post day 1 @ flightsimulator.com, but since I seldom visit those forums, please let us know through here if you ever get any feedback from ASOBO.

Thx!

17 minutes ago, jcomm said:

YoYo, I upvoted your post day 1 @ flightsimulator.com, but since I seldom visit those forums, please let us know through here if you ever get any feedback from ASOBO.

Thx!

The same, SOH and Avsim is the main Forum for me also for MSFS. What I noticed they changed the text in the title as [BUG LOGGED]. Personally I havent any idea what its mean 🙂 however they noticed this topic and maybe they working on it (I hope 😉 ).

4 hours ago, YoYo said:

As in the title, This is test to see better this effect on monitoring tool, not a training video, you can notice it also with 5kts or less even if you know better MSFS.

It's a wrong test,
You have to use your planes correctly.

47 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

It's a wrong test,
You have to use your planes correctly.

So what thoughts 🤤? I really appreciate such sentences, with zero arguments. 👍

No, the same, btw. its not my video also but it shows the problem perfectly, this test shows the behavior of wind and ground physics that is independent of the aircraft. You can find many videos on YT with this issue. In MSFS the general behavior is coded in the environment, not like in DCS, e.g. under the plane. The model only has its own flight physics characteristics, but adapts to the entire environment, not the other way around. The problem with ground physics (with speed and barrier of 40kts) here applies to every plane in MSFS, but with taildraggers it is most noticeable. Here is an example from FSX/P3D what it should look like and there the physics is very correct, not that in MSFS.

 

Edited September 14, 20214 yr by YoYo