2 hours ago, Ixoye said:

It looks like plastic junk to me.

According to the video it is all metal inside.  Until we actually see one in the wild though,  who knows,

The big selling pint is it is pendular.

If you try and adjust the tension just a whisker too much on the Airbus throttle quadrant you break it (I'm on my second). I hope that has been fixed on this one. This yoke though is far too big for my desk which I also use for work and life and everything else.  

12 hours ago, JDWalley said:

Don't see the point of a quadrant with throttles and speedbrake, but no flap lever.

Future additional sales with the addon quad section.  That was my take as soon as I saw it, not a bad idea either if you're part of the company.

9 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Future additional sales with the addon quad section.  That was my take as soon as I saw it, not a bad idea either if you're part of the company.

It's a pretty obvious future cash grab; but in my experience companies that do that don't care enough about the customer to give a good product in the first place. If they're willing to sell an addon to what should be part of the initial design, what else are they doing for extra profit? Are stress points made with inferior materials? Are electrical connections cheaply soldered? Did they spend any money on testing drivers and sim compatibility?

I'm rarely a naysayer, but personally this "we'll sell you a flap lever as an addon!" strategy comes off as a red flag.

17 hours ago, fppilot said:

Right now I'd be hard pressed to rec anything overall on a cost effective and quality basis than the Honeycomb Alpha

And I'd wait on that till the new ones are out. They've upgraded to hall-effect sensors for $20 more. No brainer in my book.

 

12 hours ago, JDWalley said:

Don't see the point of a quadrant with throttles and speedbrake, but no flap lever.

I agree. That's disappointing for 2 reasons - first, how hard would it have been to put another axis on there. And second, if the 3rd axis can be used as either a speed brake or a flap handle, that suggests there won't be notches in the flap handle, which is unfortunate. 

 

I am intrigued by all the new yokes/throttles coming into market (especially honeycomb) but maybe because of my age I really really miss being able to go to a store and actually see it, touch it, check out the movements, ect.  I still don't really have a sense of the honeycomb throttle size/throws, even the videos seem to be distorted or the folks hands are huge or small, just does not look right.

Guess I am just old school, with the younger crowd, this is probably preferred with the buying, selling and returns all done via shipping.  I just get nervous, especially with returning based on 'does not feel right'.

13 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

I am intrigued by all the new yokes/throttles coming into market (especially honeycomb) but maybe because of my age I really really miss being able to go to a store and actually see it, touch it, check out the movements, ect.  I still don't really have a sense of the honeycomb throttle size/throws, even the videos seem to be distorted or the folks hands are huge or small, just does not look right.

Guess I am just old school, with the younger crowd, this is probably preferred with the buying, selling and returns all done via shipping.  I just get nervous, especially with returning based on 'does not feel right'.

I fully understand.  The last time I was able to compare yokes in a store was to compare a CH yoke and a Saitek yoke. But not side by side. The CH was in a Fry's store and the Saitek was 30 miles away in a CompUSA store.

Perhaps this will help.  In my photo you can see a 10 inch iPad, a typical computer mouse sitting on a suede 9x12 inch folio, all in front of a 28" diagonal monitor.  Also in sight are a typical pair of eyeglasses and a normal sized mousepad.  The smaller sized keyboard is resting across the housings of both the Alpha yoke and the Bravo quadrant.

 

Edited September 29, 20214 yr by fppilot

Thank you, this does help.  Still curious about what is in the big 'tube' behind the actual levers on the quad (empty?).  I am drawn to this as it seems like the throttles have the longest range of motion that I have seen for units like this.   I am debating between this and the 'airbus' stick/throttle.  However, I have never found any info on how that throttle (airbus style) actually attaches to the desktop.

What you have certainly implies a kind of 'permanent' setup.  I use my PC for work and other activities throughout the day and I think that this may be a real bugger to setup/takedown.

Thank you again for taking the time to respond, much appreciated.

15 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said:

What you have certainly implies a kind of 'permanent' setup.  I use my PC for work and other activities throughout the day and I think that this may be a real bugger to setup/takedown.

I have the Honeycomb alpha and use it at my home work desk. It has 2 screw clamps on the front and 2 small rotary screws that clamp the back down a bit. Takes about 1 minute to get it on/off so not a problem at all. 

1 hour ago, Mike S KPDX said:

Thank you, this does help.  Still curious about what is in the big 'tube' behind the actual levers on the quad (empty?)

It's essentially empty, yes. Beyond the circuit board for the switches (which is a cm or two wide, there's pretty much nothing. It's identical to the yoke to save on tooling costs. The fact it doesn't improve the quadrant's green credentials (i.e. all that additional and redundant plastic) seems of no concern to them. I suppose if you have both yoke and TQ, it creates a 'group identity' for their products, as well as providing a second set of mounting points on top for Saitek/Logitech panels.