December 7, 20214 yr Author On 12/5/2021 at 9:19 PM, Republic3D said: It could be the Nvidia drivers. The latest ones are causing CTD (crash to desktop) for some people. I have a RX580, I tried updating the drivers, but nothing changed (AMD)
December 7, 20214 yr Author On 12/6/2021 at 10:41 AM, Jazz said: Since the last update I have had nothing but crashes and this is one of them. When it happened I was preparing the plane on the apron and the sim and pc locked up but the mouse curser was still moving and if I paused trackir I could see that the computer was reacting to this input because the lights on the sensor were changing but apart from that I could get no reponse from system or flight sim to shut down the sim, bring up task manager or shut down the computer. The sim just froze with audio still running. It was a bit weird. I had to do a hard shut down which I hate to do. For the week or two I had this sim running before the update it was totally stable but as soon as that update was applied it has become a unreliable horror show for me. I have been concerned that this is a hardware problem with my recently installed 6900xt and power supply. I even replaced the power supply, reinstalled windows, tested memory, put the sim on a different drive, tried various graphics drivers but the problems continue and ONLY with flight sim. No problems running anything else. Thats exactly what ahs been happening to me, I also have been worried that it may be a hardware problem but that would be a bit weird as every single other sim/game work just fine.
December 7, 20214 yr Author On 12/6/2021 at 11:02 AM, Jazz said: This is where I am I think. Trouble is I don't have a pc repair place near here that I trust really. I have been building my own computers for 20 years and never had an issue I have not been able to identify and resolve myself but this problem is proving elusive. I may wait until the next hotfix and see if that stops it but failing that I may have to find somehwere with all the gear to test all my hardware. Honestly, flight sim aside my finger of suspicion has been pointing me at my motherboard but there is simply no way for me to be certain of that. All my gear is new so if the fault is identified getting replacements shouldn't be terribly hard. On 12/6/2021 at 10:24 AM, rayharris108 said: Hi, Sorry to hear about your problems. Not sure whether my experiences will help. I had an older machine; i5 4690 with GTX 1080ti, which was working apparently quite well from a performance perspective. However, particularly after SU5, I was experiencing constant and random CTDs and freezes like you, and whatever I tried could never get to the bottom of it. I did the Windows Memory Diagnostic and found initially that it looked like some of my memory modules were faulty. I had 32Gb of RAM and after the tests took 2 of the apparently offending 8Gb modules out. For a while including during SU6, it seemed to improve things. But I still wanted my full 32Gb, so then I bought new memory modules, but they didn't work either. This was a heart sinking moment as it looked like it might have been a motherboard issue. So I took my machine into a local PC repair company whom I trusted and have dealt with for 20 years. They confirmed when they got it onto the bench and tested it, that is was a motherboard problem and said it wasn't worth me buying a like for replacement. So in my case I just got them to build a new PC with an i7 11700k and 32Gb of DDR4 RAM and SSDs, using my old graphics card of course. For me this was a real nice upgrade, and it's been absolutely rock solid ever since (except when I've loaded a dodgy mod). Because I had a full version of Win10 they were able to just paste the old system onto my new SSDs and it was plug and play. The similarity for you is no other programs revealed any such problems with my PC, only MSFS. People often blame MSFS sometimes rightly, but actually other than the recognised bugs, glitches and bork-ups from Asobo, a lot of issues I have found were ultimately with my own machine set-up. As I said, not sure whether any of this is at all relevant in your case, but as this a great community, and others have gone out of their way to help me in the past, I've tried my best to help if I possibly can. ray This is where it gets frustrating, I have the fear that my motherboard may be faulty, as I said everything works great but, another thing, when my pc boots it makes weird "mechanical sounds" that are not coming from the only hdd. Plus im on a tight budget when it comes to my PC so I don't really want to buy another motherboard. (Anyway what has to be done will be done)
December 7, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, EventHorizon said: Thats exactly what ahs been happening to me, I also have been worried that it may be a hardware problem but that would be a bit weird as every single other sim/game work just fine. I have spent the last 3 days running nothing but stress tests. Memtest, 13 hours of prime 95 yesterday and today I have been stressing the graphics card with the usual software for that and nothing. I cannot get this machine to fall over. Unless I run flight sim. I'm willing to accept that I have a hardware fault but I have stressed the hell of this thing and have found not a single error. I'm forced to deduce that a hardware error, although still possible, is less likely and that there is something about this flight sim that is causing these issues since the last update. I have not a clue what that can be but I will start by uninstalling the world updates and adding them one at a time but I'm at the point now where I may just wait for the next hotfix and see what happens. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
December 7, 20214 yr Author 23 hours ago, MrFuzzy said: Does it happen when you change view? Take a look here: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/free-look-camera-change-frozen-screen-on-xbox-pc/472823 This may be the case, mapping the pov switch on my joystick was a nightmare as for for eg 45 degrees to the right tilts the camera 135 degrees to the left and this is true for all buttons. After a solid 2 hours of trying to map these buttons I gave up, only front, side and back buttons work properly. - So in other words buttons are conflicting with each other on my joystick. But the freezing happened most of the time when I was just flying without changing the view looking straight forward. I remember just a couple freezes when I looked ito the side or over the instrument panel.
December 7, 20214 yr Author 19 hours ago, SAPilot said: Thanks Fuzz .. that thread pointed me in the right direction for an issue I had since SU7 , and I was too lazy to diagnose the problem. All good now - removed all [MID_CLICK] assignments in MOUSE PROFILE Ill try this and let you guys know if it helped. Binding the pov buttons on my joystick was a nightmare and still they dont work fully, so there might be a lot of conflict going on.
December 7, 20214 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Jazz said: I have spent the last 3 days running nothing but stress tests. Memtest, 13 hours of prime 95 yesterday and today I have been stressing the graphics card with the usual software for that and nothing. I cannot get this machine to fall over. Unless I run flight sim. I'm willing to accept that I have a hardware fault but I have stressed the hell of this thing and have found not a single error. I'm forced to deduce that a hardware error, although still possible, is less likely and that there is something about this flight sim that is causing these issues since the last update. I have not a clue what that can be but I will start by uninstalling the world updates and adding them one at a time but I'm at the point now where I may just wait for the next hotfix and see what happens. Installing the updates from what I know is a bit of a nightmare, it takes long to install them and during every download there is a risk of a file corrupting / some magic happening that will brake the game files. I only had two failed update installs but i managed to fix them, it didnt go so well to my friend up to this day as he had problems with update installs for most of the time. - update install prooblems as in freezing during installment of the update, and corrupted/broken files after installing that broke the sim in some way.
December 7, 20214 yr Only thing that seems to cause the crash where audio continues on my system is if I pull out a USB connected device while in the sim. By any chance do you have any wireless devices that go into sleep mode after 10 minutes? Currently circumnavigating the world in a mix of Cessna and Piper aircraft. My Default Setup; MSFS, Honeycomb Alpha, Thrustmaster Hotas X, TrackIR, Samsung Galaxy Tab, JustFlight Piper Arrow. Simworks Quest Kodiak 100. Wishlist; Honeycomb Bravo, Honeycomb Charlie. 1:400 Airline Model Collector.
December 7, 20214 yr Just now, Rudiii said: Only thing that seems to cause the crash where audio continues on my system is if I pull out a USB connected device while in the sim. By any chance do you have any wireless devices that go into sleep mode after 10 minutes? I don't but I will bear that in mind and test it. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
December 7, 20214 yr Maybe updating motherboard to latest chipset and USB drivers? If that doesn't work, maybe the latest BIOS too? Also download the latest Visual C++ Redistributable packs? AMD Ryzen R9 9950X3D | Asus Astral RTX 5080 OC | 32 GB DDR5 6000 CL30 | 3440x1440 G-Sync | Logitech Pro Throttles Rudder Yoke Panels | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS | TrackIR 5 | Oculus Rift S
December 7, 20214 yr Just now, Republic3D said: Maybe updating motherboard to latest chipset and USB drivers? If that doesn't work, maybe the latest BIOS too? Also download the latest Visual C++ Redistributable packs? I realise that you may not be talking to me but everything on my system is as up to date as is possible to be. To add to my previous posts I have spent the morning stress testing my graphics card and then ran AIDA 64 system stability utility all day. For 9 hours and not even a hint of a failure. Not a single stress test or stability check or memory check has returned anything close to a crash, fault, shut shown, blue screen.....nothing on any program or test. Several days of trying to make this thing break and it didn't even break a sweat. Every setting and probe has returned nothing but nominal parameters during all of it. Although still possible this is a hardware problem I must say it's looking quite unlikely and I will wait for the hotfix to see what happens but if that does not resolve it I will once again try a clean windows install and a clean MSFS install but for now, I'm taking my rig off the rack and will cease torturing and interogating it. The problem looks software related somehow. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
October 24, 20223 yr Hello Jazz... did you ever fix this issue..? I have EXACTLY the same story as yours. I have every confidence my computer does not have a hardware fault, as all tests and other software work fine. However between 2 and 5min into Microsoft Flight Simulator running the screen freezes, the audio continues, flight simulator has crashed and I'm not able to do anything other than turn the computer off.
October 24, 20223 yr Try turning HAGS off or backing down to the previous NVIDIA drivers. I had the same issue, sim would freeze after about 10 minutes, meanwhile the sound continued. I turned Hardware Accelerated GPU scheduling off under Graphics Settings and that worked for me. This started after the SU11 beta install.
November 13, 20223 yr On 12/7/2021 at 4:00 PM, Jazz said: I realise that you may not be talking to me but everything on my system is as up to date as is possible to be. To add to my previous posts I have spent the morning stress testing my graphics card and then ran AIDA 64 system stability utility all day. For 9 hours and not even a hint of a failure. Not a single stress test or stability check or memory check has returned anything close to a crash, fault, shut shown, blue screen.....nothing on any program or test. Several days of trying to make this thing break and it didn't even break a sweat. Every setting and probe has returned nothing but nominal parameters during all of it. Although still possible this is a hardware problem I must say it's looking quite unlikely and I will wait for the hotfix to see what happens but if that does not resolve it I will once again try a clean windows install and a clean MSFS install but for now, I'm taking my rig off the rack and will cease torturing and interogating it. The problem looks software related somehow. Unfortunately, I have been having bee having long sim freezes for some time. Been going on so long that I have lost track of when it first started. I have tested my RAM; it's OK. I recently installed a new motherboard (same model), still freezing. I've reinstalled MSFS and tested with a clean community folder with no improvement. Turned off HAGS, no change. I went through Device Manager and unchecked "Save Power" every device with no change. It's very random and doesn't seem to be related to anything I am doing. Sometimes it will freeze before I can taxi to the active runway and every 5 to 10 minutes of flight time. I flew 105 miles the other day and the sim froze 5 times for about 45 seconds each time. Very frustrating. Intel Core Ultra 9 285K | GIGABYTE Z890 AORUS Elite X ICE | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 | Win 11 Pro | Acer Predator UltraWide 3440x1440 (G-Sync)
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