48 minutes ago, MySound said:

Just because it is shown as „usage“ doesn’t really mean you need it. 
If you will ever program something you will hear about garbage collection etc. 

 

Additionally some software are programmed to „use“ whatever is available. 
i can guarantee you will will not get a single FPS in not a single game because of the 12 vs 24 GB VRAM of the 3090. 

Maybe. I have heard this mentioned before that an application will allocate all available memory or at least a lot more than they will ever use. I am a developer. I have never written a game or an application like MSFS. I worked for a company that made compilers and I was on the IDE/Tools team. I have never heard of anyone allocating more memory than they think they will ever use. That is just poor programming. I do concede that I do not know enough about this type of development, and you could be correct. 

Again, you could be correct that there is not one 1 FPS different from a 12GB 3080ti vs a 24GB 3090. I do see that I have used 11+ gigs in Baron G58. How much of that 11+ was actually being used? I do not know. I would hope that once MSFS needed more vram, it would allocate in 2Gb chunks.

Well, I'm running about two sliders on Ultra and everything else on High at 2K and my FPS in busy add-on AP's like KFLL are at about 25 FPS in the Kodiak (frames locked at 30)...

 

Is this expected?

thank you all for your thoughts. there was a comment on if I will be using 4K. yes the idea is to get a 4K monitor also. 

and have a system that works for many years.

I got my last desktop from puget in 2012 and still have it

 

 

5 hours ago, MySound said:

If @PoeticPhoenix3 isn’t gaming in 4K a 3080ti/3090 is overkill in 95% of all cases. 

This is not the case (Render Scaling) .. and even IF he wasn't using 4k at the moment ..it would be best to have the hardware to run it NOW than to downgrade, realize that he now wants 4k and not have the hardware and need a further upgrade. The two components you spend money on is the CPU and the GPU ..

I run MSFS 2020 on a 7-year old PC with 8 gigs of system ram, 1080p, on an ullrawidescreen monitor, all settings at medium, and get about 23-28 fps. 

I never use default airports: either Asobo handcrafted oners, freeware ones from flightsim.to, or payware airports. 

It amazes me how much time people spend worrying about their hardware. I rather spend that time flying and enjoying MSFS 2020. I also don't develop a rash just because the sim sometimes stutters or takes its time loading scenery. 

Edited January 30, 20224 yr by Ricardo41

35 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

I run MSFS 2020 on a 7-year old PC with 8 gigs of system ram, 1080p, on an ullrawidescreen monitor, all settings at medium, and get about 23-28 fps. 

 

The significant bit there is "1080p" as most games including MSFS are fine at 1080p.   Even 2k/1440p is not that demanding overall.

The people buying high specced machines are usually trying for 4K and often as not even looking at running VR.

Basically a 4K monitor may only be $200 dearer than the  equivalent 1080p screen -  but it can had more like $2000 to the cost of the system needed to maintain the same frame rates.

 

Edited January 30, 20224 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

On 1/29/2022 at 3:13 AM, Maxis said:

This is not the case (Render Scaling) .. and even IF he wasn't using 4k at the moment ..it would be best to have the hardware to run it NOW than to downgrade, realize that he now wants 4k and not have the hardware and need a further upgrade. The two components you spend money on is the CPU and the GPU ..

Yeah. Great idea to buy a 1800€ GPU if you don’t need it 🙂

And whoever wants to fiddle around with render scale - fine. Then you suggest having a 1080p monitor and upscale to 4K? Or what do you need the 3080ti for in anything lower than 4K?

 

@PoeticPhoenix3 if you want to have a future proof 4K system > 3080ti or 3090

Edited January 30, 20224 yr by MySound

3 hours ago, MySound said:

Yeah. Great idea to buy a 1800€ GPU if you don’t need it 🙂

And whoever wants to fiddle around with render scale - fine. Then you suggest having a 1080p monitor and upscale to 4K? Or what do you need the 3080ti for in anything lower than 4K?

 

@PoeticPhoenix3 if you want to have a future proof 4K system > 3080ti or 3090

"thank you all for your thoughts. there was a comment on if I will be using 4K. yes the idea is to get a 4K monitor also. 

and have a system that works for many years.

I got my last desktop from puget in 2012 and still have it"

 

Gee i dunno .. What does that post look like to you?

 

It looks like someone intending to purchase something to last right ?? The point still stands. I don't subscribe to buying "adequate" equipment with no margin to only have to turn around and buy AGAIN later on when more resources may be needed down the line. (The sim is relatively young)  And FYI yes people do increase render scaling for various reasons and that requires a bit more margin.

Edited January 30, 20224 yr by Maxis

thank you again everyone.

any recommendations for a 4k monitor?