MSFS has its issues, but they can be overcome. 

 

On 5/21/2022 at 4:44 PM, spitzer said:

Yes ground dynamics is not good at msfs. But In msfs settings you can try to reduce rudder sensivity to -%60-70.%, dead zone to %20, extremity dead zone to %25. With fbw 320 and pmdg 737 seems good. But Not tried with fenix. 

Thank you that is much better now on my T-rudder pedals!

On 5/28/2022 at 8:48 PM, rondon9898 said:

I think study-level sim developers should be finding ways to circumvent the terrible ground physics.

I think when it's known that a ground physics fix is coming, spending money on fixing what we have now would only lead to more expensive 3pd planes. 😉

 

There's no "hack" needed that will have to be removed if there are changes to the ground physics, and no additional money needs to be spent to model crosswind takeoff/landing capability right now as I showed in the video linked above. 

And to say, for me it has nothing to do with the pushback Tool, i put it out from the community and still the same ( veering to the side ) is goeing on and for the other I tried every aspekt i could try, but no chance for me.

Hope they ( Fenix ) can overgo this issue with the next update..

cheers 😉

6 minutes ago, Donstim said:

There's no "hack" needed that will have to be removed if there are changes to the ground physics, and no additional money needs to be spent to model crosswind takeoff/landing capability right now as I showed in the video linked above. 

I'm not a specialist, but I've heard from reputable people here that the way MSFS handles crosswinds is outright incorrect; I think I've read that it applies all the crosswind forces essentially right at rotation, causing a jarring and sudden shift in necessary control input. There's also some talk in one of the Q and A's about how the ASOBO team wants to re-write both how winds are applied to aircraft in all phases of flight (including at rest, where the physics are the worst) along with a change to the ground friction model, up to and including simulating surface area on the wheels - which are currently computed as points and not 3d area's.

In the interim, every bandaid helps. Great video.

16 minutes ago, WestAir said:

I'm not a specialist, but I've heard from reputable people here that the way MSFS handles crosswinds is outright incorrect; I think I've read that it applies all the crosswind forces essentially right at rotation, causing a jarring and sudden shift in necessary control input. There's also some talk in one of the Q and A's about how the ASOBO team wants to re-write both how winds are applied to aircraft in all phases of flight (including at rest, where the physics are the worst) along with a change to the ground friction model, up to and including simulating surface area on the wheels - which are currently computed as points and not 3d area's.

In the interim, every bandaid helps. Great video.

You heard it right!

You don't need the word of reputable or non reputable folk. Put it to the test yourself.

Take a heavy airliner, say an A320 and put it in a crosswind of, say, mighty 3 knots with an awful gust to 5 knots at the opposite direction. Your 65 tons of metal will oscillate like you're trapped in a hurricane.

Edited June 17, 20223 yr by ha5mvo

1 hour ago, ha5mvo said:

You heard it right!

You don't need the word of reputable or non reputable folk. Put it to the test yourself.

Take a heavy airliner, say an A320 and put it in a crosswind of, say, mighty 3 knots with an awful gust to 5 knots at the opposite direction. Your 65 tons of metal will oscillate like you're trapped in a hurricane.

Again, not a problem for an airplane with a good flight model...https://1drv.ms/v/s!Ajsy7Ey4_8uF0EBphYlfTEQ44ZbT?e=hCCfN5

6 minutes ago, Donstim said:

Again, not a problem for an airplane with a good flight model...https://1drv.ms/v/s!Ajsy7Ey4_8uF0EBphYlfTEQ44ZbT?e=hCCfN5

Surprising indeed! I stand corrected...That's the FBW, right?

Can you tell me how to record a video plz?

Edited June 17, 20223 yr by ha5mvo

1 minute ago, ha5mvo said:

Surprising indeed! That's the FBW, right?

Can you tell me how to record a video plz?

Yes, that's FBW.

That video was made by just using the Windows 10 Xbox Game Bar function. You can enable it by going to Windows settings, Gaming, and turning on the Xbox Game bar. You can then start recording by simultaneously pressing the Windows key, Alt, and R.

Or to get more features, you can download and use something like OBS Studio. It's free and open source. https://obsproject.com/

53 minutes ago, Donstim said:

Yes, that's FBW.

That video was made by just using the Windows 10 Xbox Game Bar function. You can enable it by going to Windows settings, Gaming, and turning on the Xbox Game bar. You can then start recording by simultaneously pressing the Windows key, Alt, and R.

Or to get more features, you can download and use something like OBS Studio. It's free and open source. https://obsproject.com/

Comparing your video with my own experiment under similar conditions I noticed that the FBW constantly moves its rudder to counteract the yaw that's otherwise very significant on the a320 I have tested (fenix).

1 hour ago, Donstim said:

Yes, that's FBW.

That video was made by just using the Windows 10 Xbox Game Bar function. You can enable it by going to Windows settings, Gaming, and turning on the Xbox Game bar. You can then start recording by simultaneously pressing the Windows key, Alt, and R.

Aha!!! So that’s how you do it.😃

Thanks very much! I’m getting a bored by Shadowplay and all the junk that comes with it.

Looking forward to giving this a spin later tonight 👍