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Landing 737 versus Fenix A 320

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4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Tiller is never used in any mode but taxiing.

I think you misunderstood me there Bob. By having a tiller axis assigned in MSFS, your rudder pedals will only apply a maximum of 6* deflection of the nosewheel during takeoff and landing (or really, at any time) instead of 74 degrees. This means when you're landing and put in 10% of rudder, you're only getting 0.6 degrees of movement on your nosewheel with a tiller axis assigned, as opposed to getting 7.4 degrees of nose-wheel movement.

This means landings and take-offs are much less squirrely, and you have way more precise control, by assigning something to the nose-wheel steering axis in the sim. It just vies you 10x the precision.

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5 minutes ago, WestAir said:

I think you misunderstood me there Bob. By having a tiller axis assigned in MSFS, your rudder pedals will only apply a maximum of 6* deflection of the nosewheel during takeoff and landing (or really, at any time) instead of 74 degrees. This means when you're landing and put in 10% of rudder, you're only getting 0.6 degrees of movement on your

 nosewheel with a tiller axis assigned, as opposed to getting 7.4 degrees of nose-wheel movement.

This means landings and take-offs are much less squirrely, and you have way more precise control, by assigning something to the nose-wheel steering axis in the sim. It just vies you 10x the precision.

Ok,I just never used the tiller, just rudder pedals, never had a problem nailing the centerline on the Fenix. FPM is another story. My takeoff is right on the centerline each time.

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Ok,I just never used the tiller, just rudder pedals, never had a problem nailing the centerline on the Fenix. FPM is another story. My takeoff is right on the centerline each time.

 

Yeah, but the guy I was responding to said he has a hard time keeping the centerline, so that's why I brought up having a tiller axis as a solution. It makes a massive difference.

As for FPM, I'll let you know when I figure something else out besides an old version of the plane. Right now I'm getting -400+ landings with a "5" altitude call-out. It's so weird.

Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.
The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.

There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you.
It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.

1 hour ago, WestAir said:

Yeah, but the guy I was responding to said he has a hard time keeping the centerline, so that's why I brought up having a tiller axis as a solution. It makes a massive difference.

I would like to give this a try as I have rudder pedals and a twist axis. Your explanation makes some sense to me, so I want to try it. In the MSFS Control Options, what is the tiller called?

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2 hours ago, WestAir said:

Yeah, but the guy I was responding to said he has a hard time keeping the centerline, so that's why I brought up having a tiller axis as a solution. It makes a massive difference.

As for FPM, I'll let you know when I figure something else out besides an old version of the plane. Right now I'm getting -400+ landings with a "5" altitude call-out. It's so weird.

I believe on a real aircraft the tiller is only used when you are at taxiing speed. basic rule is..Tiller for Taxiway   Rudder pedals for Runway. Never heard of using Tiller to control aircraft on taking off or landing. 

 

 

 

45 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I believe on a real aircraft the tiller is only used when you are at taxiing speed. basic rule is..Tiller for Taxiway   Rudder pedals for Runway. Never heard of using Tiller to control aircraft on taking off or landing. 

Bob, you don't use your tiller axis for takeoff or landing. By setting something to the axis, the sim automatically reduces how much your rudder pedals turn the nose wheel. This makes takeoff and landing easier.

Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.
The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.

There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you.
It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.

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13 minutes ago, WestAir said:

Bob, you don't use your tiller axis for takeoff or landing. By setting something to the axis, the sim automatically reduces how much your rudder pedals turn the nose wheel. This makes takeoff and landing easier.

OH, now I understand.

 

 

 

 

Thanks guys. That makes a lot of sense! Will look into it!

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