Crikey, What's Happened After SU11

[Noel 4,563]

3 hours ago, rjquick said:

I noticed this as well with the 737-700. I'm not a frame-rate peeper so I don't what the numbers were, but definitely more stuttering after the update. I normally don't notice any of that unless taxiing around LAX and even that isn't too bad.

Here's pre-SU11, in the PMDG 738 on a long descent into KSNA in Los Angeles area.   Absolute Nirvana smooth no stutters:

Here's post-SU11 in the PMDG 738 on a long descent into KDEN, eastern approach into RWY26, and this was AFTER uninstalling AccuSeason.  Intermittent stuttering, frametime much less fluid:

Post SU11 with AccuSeason installed, PMDG 738:

 

 

[scotchegg 4,240]

Has rolling cache been enabled? That happened to me in the beta and it tanked frames.

[hansb57 498]

After installing I had terrible stuttering and low fps with the gliders (every were I tried)   I dont know if there is any correlation but I wiped my cash and after that i ran fine and seems even slighly smoother

[Noel 4,563]

1 hour ago, scotchegg said:

Has rolling cache been enabled? That happened to me in the beta and it tanked frames.

I deleted then rebuilt the RC to no avail.  This however, OFFLINE mode which I committed to stay in when I got the OFFLINE message about 45 minutes ago so began a capture from gate to 21 minutes into KBZN KDEN in the PMDG 738:

Apparently it's all about Online mode, and hopefully "server issues".  This is what perfection looks like to CapFrameX, and to my eyes as well:

I will go back on line as I get near descent into KDEN and remove the rolling cache and leave it off...standby....

 

 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Noel

[fppilot 4,391]

12 minutes ago, Noel said:

I deleted then rebuilt the RC to no avail.  This however, OFFLINE mode which I committed to stay in when I got the OFFLINE message about 45 minutes ago so began a capture from gate to 21 minutes into KBZN KDEN in the PMDG 738:

Apparently it's all about Online mode, and hopefully "server issues".  This is what perfection looks like to CapFrameX, and to my eyes as well:

I will go back on line as I get near descent into KDEN and remove the rolling cache and leave it off...standby....

 

 

5 hours ago, fppilot said:

Just finished my fourth flight after SU11.  Same aircraft, same settings.  This fourth flight was a stuttery mess.  Got a couple of server alerts early in the flight.  No clue.  The first three flights were totally normal.  I suspect server issues.

Thank you!  Great work!  Attractive graphs by the way.

Edited November 13, 2022 by fppilot

[JimBrown 596]

15 hours ago, fppilot said:

Attractive graphs by the way.

https://www.capframex.com/

...jim

[Noel 4,563]

It's getting better now in online mode thankfully.  Starting to see frametimes very close to pre-SU11.  I did disable the rolling cache but I think that is a red herring because I've always run the rolling cache and had sterling performance prior to this recent SU.

Edited November 14, 2022 by Noel

[B777ER 2,492]

1 hour ago, Noel said:

It's getting better now in online mode thankfully.  Starting to see frametimes very close to pre-SU11.  I did disable the rolling cache but I think that is a red herring because I've always run the rolling cache and had sterling performance prior to this recent SU.

The server load is probably nothing now compared to this past weekend. MSFS probably runs great during the week. It’s on the weekends when everyone is on that it goes downhill.

[Rocky_53 1,594]

This afternoon I started a flight in the PMDG 737-800 from Pamplona in N Spain, a very small airport, and I never saw framerates above 23/24 with stuttering while taxiing! In fact, even in the air, frames were only 25/28 until I got many miles into the flight. 

Edited November 14, 2022 by Rockliffe

[Noel 4,563]

26 minutes ago, Rockliffe said:

This afternoon I started a flight in the PMDG 737-800 from Pamplona in N Spain, a very small airport, and I never saw framerates above 23/24 with stuttering while taxiing! In fact, even in the air, frames were only 25/28 until I got many miles into the flight. 

If you didn't already do yourself a favor and go into DATA and turn off ONLINE FUNCTIONALITY, this way you can isolate server side as a source of poor performance.

[Rocky_53 1,594]

18 hours ago, Noel said:

If you didn't already do yourself a favor and go into DATA and turn off ONLINE FUNCTIONALITY, this way you can isolate server side as a source of poor performance.

Thanks Noel, sure, have done this. No difference.

[Noel 4,563]

22 minutes ago, Rockliffe said:

Thanks Noel, sure, have done this. No difference.

Good luck Howard I hope you can get it straightened out soon it gets  old troubleshooting I know I've been at it for a good month off and on and fortunately it's been worth it finally. 

[Rocky_53 1,594]

2 hours ago, Noel said:

Good luck Howard I hope you can get it straightened out soon it gets  old troubleshooting I know I've been at it for a good month off and on and fortunately it's been worth it finally. 

Hi Noel, I'm just doing some testing at this very moment. I may have got to the bottom of things Will confirm shortly. EDIT: Hmm, I thought I had found something, but alas, nothing has really changed.

Edited November 15, 2022 by Rockliffe

[ckyliu 1,749]

This sounds very similar to the WASM compiler issue affecting the A310... MFS has sometimes used fast compile to build the gauges on first launch of the sim after an update, resulting in poor performance for some users.

[Rocky_53 1,594]

19 minutes ago, ckyliu said:

This sounds very similar to the WASM compiler issue affecting the A310... MFS has sometimes used fast compile to build the gauges on first launch of the sim after an update, resulting in poor performance for some users.

I am quite anxious about it all now. I spent most of yesterday testing and all this afternoon. I thought perhaps the terrain LOD had somehow changed after SU11 so I dropped it to 120m from 200. Changed most of settings to either medium or high. The bog standard test scenario is from my local airport EGGD (Bristol) where I have never seen fps drop below 30 in P3D or MSFS anywhere on the airport, even with some setting on ultra. Today it would bounce around 22 with stutters while taxxing and 27/28 at the end of the runway. I'm at a loss now and very miffed!  The thing that makes me so angry is the absurdity of having mandatory updates. I would have been quite happy with my sim several versions back. This having to update at the whim of Asobo and then always, I mean always, having issues is ridiculous. It reminds me of the FSX days.

Edited November 15, 2022 by Rockliffe