It's interesting to see the "little people" misled by the media and politicians and how these statistics are manipulated only in one direction.

If anybody is under the impression that the US is not struggling enough by the EPA rules, and that we shouldn't fill our tanks to make it to work, heat our houses and eat we are in deep dodo.

I wonder why we are not first addressing the issue with the well-known Worldwide offenders, countries like Russia, China, India, Brasil, Venezuela, African continent, and others. When we descend through 10,000 FT into those major cities it's like getting sucked in dense layers of smog and all the people in the airplane start coughing or have difficulty breathing. There are days while in these cities during our layovers when the concierge is actually recommending us to stay indoors due to poor air quality from the factory's emissions.

Talking about blaming other countries? Do we remember when China locked many cities and all these big polluting factories were shut down? Do we recall seeing the pictures showing those cities before and after?

And we, after the regulations we have here need to mind putting gas in our vehicles, turning down/up our house temperatures to the point of discomfort affecting our quality of life and health just to pretend that we are at fault while the offenders are fine?

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I guess I’m really out of the loop. I didn’t get the memo about Africa becoming a country 🤔

Apparently, you are all debating climate change and politics.
Perhaps the moderators are having a Sunday off.

 

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3 minutes ago, Mike A said:

I guess I’m really out of the loop. I didn’t get the memo about Africa becoming a country 🤔

Adjusted 😉

 

3 hours ago, dave2013 said:

The vilification of "carbon", CO2, methane, nitrogen(Netherlands will be shutting down 3000 farms due to excessive nitrogen emissions), cows and the meat they produce, and soon *many* other things you little people need to stop consuming, is all part of an effort to force the unwashed masses to reduce their consumption to stop you-know-what and "save the planet", but really it's about weakening and impoverishing the middle class and reducing their numbers.  All this so that the "elites", IE the wealthy class and their politician minions, can increase their wealth and power.

Because the actual scientific phenomenon of "you know what" is just way too boring.

I remember the 'brown cloud' when I lived in Denver.  I remember spending most of a summer in Torrance on business.  I was staying at the Iron Horse in Redondo Beach. Imagine my surprise when I woke up one morning and looked out over the ocean and saw Catalina Island for the first time.  And when I drove to work I saw the San Garbriel mountains.  A Santa Ana wind or something had cleared the air.  It didn't last long.

So what did we do?  We installed catalytic converters on new cars.  We added ethanol to our gasoline.  We put shrouds on gas pump nozzles to keep fumes from our gas tanks from escaping when we filling up.  And we  had annual emission inspections of our cars and a sticker on our windshields to prove we were current.

I wouldn't say we were sitting on our butts doing nothing...we 'little people'.

Noel

2 hours ago, Nixoq said:

Because the actual scientific phenomenon of "you know what" is just way too boring.

And there it is, again.  When someone disagrees with your beliefs, you insult them.

Snow cover records are being broken again this year.  Ice caps are increasing, sea levels are steady or increasing at most 2-3cm per decade.  Wealthy elites are still buying beachfront mansions and flying around on "climate-killing" private jets.  The average global temperature stopped increasing years ago and there are indications it is actually declining.

Believe what you wish, but when you start insulting people, you instantly lose the argument.

Dave

45 minutes ago, dave2013 said:

And there it is, again.  When someone disagrees with your beliefs, you insult them.

I read no "insult" in the quote you cited. 

On the other hand, since this thread has moved into a discussion of a forbidden topic, it is now ended.