Flightsim Labs Concorde preview 23/12/22

[MachTwo 386]

The London - Bahrain - Singapore flights were overnight, leaving LHR around 5pm with a fuel stop in Bahrain, departing out of there around midnight local time. They could only operate out of Bahrain at night / early morning to be under their performance limiting takeoff weight. 

[bendead 1,085]

35 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

My rather old 1080Ti is not very good at nighttime and Concorde with all its gauges and lighting is an unknown factor. In any case there's no way in real-world ops passengers would be flying at night-time. Not with the money they paid.

All departures on the 1999 World Tour were in daytime except for one leg out of Guam and an early morning departure from India because the temps later that morning would be too high for a full load departure.

But what would be the problem flying with real weather "night weather" and day time switch manually?

Also there is no performance drop from flying in night condition on MSFS 

[Ray Proudfoot 8,960]

@MachTwo, that service ran from Jan 1976 until November 1980 which you will know of course. Given the leg down to the Adriatic had to be flown subsonic it’s not one I’m likely to fly.

And some departures had to be at night for the reason you give.

[NovemberUniform 156]

3 minutes ago, bendead said:

Also there is no performance drop from flying in night condition on MSFS

One of the very big surprises after switching sim. I was always limited to daytime flying in P3D. 🤣

[Ray Proudfoot 8,960]

4 minutes ago, bendead said:

But what would be the problem flying with real weather "night weather" and day time switch manually?

Also there is no performance drop from flying in night condition on MSFS 

If it doesn’t bother you it’s fine. Temps will be lower for departures. I always prefer to have the actual weather.

Can’t answer your second point as I don’t own MSFS.

[bendead 1,085]

@MachTwo What do you expect on the release of the MSFS version, is it possible to get a release next or near the P3D ones, or will it take longer, like 6 months or more? 

[bendead 1,085]

5 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

If it doesn’t bother you it’s fine. Temps will be lower for departures. I always prefer to have the actual weather.

I really don't mind, if I really want to be realistic, I could always find a 3 hours time frame in the week-end and do the rest of the flights with night weather.

[thepilot 577]

@MachTwo Do you also have something in stock for us glass cockpit guys? Thanks and Merry Christmas.

[Ray Proudfoot 8,960]

3 minutes ago, bendead said:

I really don't mind, if I really want to be realistic, I could always find a 3 hours time frame in the week-end and do the rest of the flights with night weather.

To be honest the weather and temps are not an issue if you’re a first time Concorde pilot. There’s a steep learning to master before getting into those.

[bendead 1,085]

3 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

To be honest the weather and temps are not an issue if you’re a first time Concorde pilot. There’s a steep learning to master before getting into those.

I used to fly it under FSX, it required a lot of FCOM and manual reading as well as practice but it was really rewarding, the only thing I couldn't do is to switch off AFE and manually manage the fuel, just too much for a single pilot.

[GCBraun 2,392]

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

My rather old 1080Ti is not very good at nighttime and Concorde with all its gauges and lighting is an unknown factor. In any case there's no way in real-world ops passengers would be flying at night-time. Not with the money they paid.

All departures on the 1999 World Tour were in daytime except for one leg out of Guam and an early morning departure from India because the temps later that morning would be too high for a full load departure.

Good to know. In any case, the fact that FSLabs showcased at least two night photos in their little preview should mean that this Concorde won’t have issues flying at night. I always enjoy flying these classic birds in complete darkness. Can’t think of a better use for my OLED screen. 

Edited December 24, 2022 by GCBraun

[lwt1971 7,417]

6 hours ago, jbdbow1970 said:

Lets be serious folks this plane is not coming to MSFS until 2024/25 and will be released in mid 2023 for P3D. Lets we get a A320 Neo or a A330 before then. This sim is still not ready for a sophisticated Concorde by FSL until some improvements on the Asobo/MS (weather/atmosphere) side.

I don't have access to FSL's internal/private forums so have you seen/heard anything from them about how MSFS is "not ready" for their Concorde yet? Any specifics about particular issues or limitations on the weather/atmosphere side? From all what they've said on their public forums work is progressing on their MSFS version, and in this latest update they said the same pretty much without any mention of blockers. Or are you speculating here, and what particular improvements do you think are needed on the weather/atmosphere side for FSL's Concorde?
 

Edited December 24, 2022 by lwt1971

[Ray Proudfoot 8,960]

1 hour ago, bendead said:

I used to fly it under FSX, it required a lot of FCOM and manual reading as well as practice but it was really rewarding, the only thing I couldn't do is to switch off AFE and manually manage the fuel, just too much for a single pilot.

The management of fuel isn't too bad. Setup for take-off and then leave it alone until Mach 0.7 when it needs pumping to tank 11. Just a couple of switches to set.

At the accel point resume rear pumping. Once tanks 9 and 10 are empty turn on the two wing tip tanks - 5a and 7a.

CoG should now be at 59%. You can always watch how the VFE handles fuel and even try it yourself and then turn him back on if things don't work out. Eventually it will stick and you'll enjoy the extra workload.

[SierraDelta 1,342]

3 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Or are you speculating here,

He is - as always 😉

 

[CapnOz 110]

19 hours ago, B777ER said:

Not my cup of tea so this will be a hard pass. Hopefully others enjoy it, I imagine FSL income is probably nowhere near what they need it to be after missing the boat on MSFS and playing catch up.

Lefteris is a Software Engineer. He probably makes upwards of $250,000 USD, so FSL is a side hustle for him.