Hello all,

I want to build a new pc specifically for MSFS 2020 to run at Ultra settings and hope to keep this system for 5-6 years.

I have shortlisted below specs  :-

Systems spec:-

1.    Processor :- Intel  i9 13900k
2.    Motherboard :- Gigabyte AERO Z790 ddr5 wifi / MSI Tomahawk Z790 ddr5 wifi (confused which one to select)
3.    Graphic card :- Zotac 4090 Trinity OC
4.    RAM :- Teamforce Delta 6000mhz RGB ddr5 16gb x 2 sticks
5.    SSD :- WD Black SN850x 1tb x 2
6.    SMPS :- Cooler master 1250 MWE gold V2 ATX 3.0 pci e 5.0
7.    Cooler :- DeepCool LT720 AIO
8.    Cabinet :- Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh (Black)

I have received quotations for the same and the average cost of build is Rs. 3,20,000 equivalent to USD 3,950.

I do not plan to overclock this system. I am not keen to buy AMD processor since the resale value in India is far less compared to Intel's processors.

Request your reviews on system and any suggestions.

 

Thank you.

Hi

i recently tried to upgrade my PC.

i bought MSI DDR5 motherboard and DDR5 rams.

the motherboard will not boot with DDR5 installed in DIMMA2, DIMMB2 as recommended by manual. Tried all combinations of rams but it only boot with DIMMB1, B2 with low performance notice, asking to put one ram in DIMMA2. The motherboard does boot with 4 DIMM (64GB).

contacted MSI but still no solution.

7 hours ago, CZPILOT said:

Hi

i recently tried to upgrade my PC.

i bought MSI DDR5 motherboard and DDR5 rams.

the motherboard will not boot with DDR5 installed in DIMMA2, DIMMB2 as recommended by manual. Tried all combinations of rams but it only boot with DIMMB1, B2 with low performance notice, asking to put one ram in DIMMA2. The motherboard does boot with 4 DIMM (64GB).

contacted MSI but still no solution.

As per my limited knowledge,

You have done it the correct way (dual channel setup). We must leave slot nearest to CPU empty.

Hope you get a reply soon from MSI.

Thank you.

That's a monster PC hehe.  I built a 12700K Z690 based system about a year ago.  Last month I added a RTX 4080.  I went with the MSI Z690 ddr5 tomahawk wifi.  Good board so far - system has been really excellent.  I've been running Kill a Watt as well to see power consumption and with MSFS running about an hour a day on average I only see peak of 400w or 500w when running VR (which of course demands more from the video card).  My ram is a little slower I'm using Corsair Vengeance 5600mhz.  Oh I've got an evga 850w psu as well.

You'll easily be able to run max settings (maybe with terrain lod at 200-300 though) with AI traffic - especially using frame generation.

21 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

That's a monster PC hehe.  I built a 12700K Z690 based system about a year ago.  Last month I added a RTX 4080.  I went with the MSI Z690 ddr5 tomahawk wifi.  Good board so far - system has been really excellent.  I've been running Kill a Watt as well to see power consumption and with MSFS running about an hour a day on average I only see peak of 400w or 500w when running VR (which of course demands more from the video card).  My ram is a little slower I'm using Corsair Vengeance 5600mhz.  Oh I've got an evga 850w psu as well.

You'll easily be able to run max settings (maybe with terrain lod at 200-300 though) with AI traffic - especially using frame generation.

MSI has very good customer base (+ great resale value) here in India. Currently i own an MSI Apache 7RG laptop. It has been 5 years and still running good but now it is not able to handle MSFS.

With new PC, I plan to run at Max settings with AI traffic and fenix a320 but will focus on such setting where CPU and GPU are not always at full load and temperatures are in range.

I plan to go with MSI Tomahawk but it does not have gen 5 m.2 nvme support which Gigabyte aero has. I have not been able to gather much information if gen 5 m.2 nvme would be any beneficial for MSFS.

 

Thanks.

2 hours ago, Vivek Seth said:

plan to go with MSI Tomahawk but it does not have gen 5 m.2 nvme support which Gigabyte aero has

Read the bus bifurcation fine print when making your selection. Some Asus boards, for example, reduce the number of lanes from the graphics card slot if you put a gen 5 m.2 card in m.2 port 1. Apparently this is in part due to the z790 interface so other manufacturers may do something similar

9 hours ago, odourboy said:

Read the bus bifurcation fine print when making your selection. Some Asus boards, for example, reduce the number of lanes from the graphics card slot if you put a gen 5 m.2 card in m.2 port 1. Apparently this is in part due to the z790 interface so other manufacturers may do something similar

Hi,

 

As per your direction, I did some research and found out that if i add a Gen 5 m.2 nvme ssd, graphics card if left with only 8 pcie lanes instead of 16 but since Gen 5 transfer rate is double than Gen 4 , it should not have much effect in performance of graphics card. This is what i was able to understand. Not sure if it is correct.

Main aim is to future proof PC such that it doesnt become obsolete in coming 5 years.

Thanks.

 

 

You'd be better with a 13700, the 900 is just a thermal-throttling-overpriced-oven. My $0.02. I even went the 13600K way as it is an even better solution, but to each his own.

8 hours ago, Vivek Seth said:

Hi,

 

As per your direction, I did some research and found out that if i add a Gen 5 m.2 nvme ssd, graphics card if left with only 8 pcie lanes instead of 16 but since Gen 5 transfer rate is double than Gen 4 , it should not have much effect in performance of graphics card. This is what i was able to understand. Not sure if it is correct.

Main aim is to future proof PC such that it doesnt become obsolete in coming 5 years.

Thanks.

 

 

That's what I'm talking about. However, regarding no impact on GPU performance, tests with 4090s indicated an impact as much as 15% with that loss of bus bandwidth. So pick your poison. 

Ryzen 7950x3d will be released at February, they say it has at least %20 more performance from 13900k for games. Maybe you can wait a bit more.

On 1/23/2023 at 12:44 AM, Vivek Seth said:

Main aim is to future proof PC such that it doesnt become obsolete in coming 5 years.

Intel's current socket is end-of-life.  AMD's new AM5 socket will be in use until 2025.

Also as mentioned the 13900K is a heat-throttling space heater.  Do consider 13600K or 13700K as I think their performance in MSFS will be in the same ballpark as the 13900K and in fact may beat it if the 13900K is throttling.  Being in India, this is a consideration, I assume your climate can be hot at times.

Also as mentioned AMD is releasing in February 3 cpu's which if the past is any guide will surpass any current Intel CPU in MSFS performance.  If other apps are important to you though, the Intel may overall be better.

12 hours ago, Mace said:

Also as mentioned the 13900K is a heat-throttling space heater. 

No, not in MSFS. Mine runs at 65 c, at 5.8 with cores loaded - nowhere near throttling temps. Obviously, if you fire up Cinebench etc. it’ll be a different story.

7 hours ago, SierraDelta said:

No, not in MSFS. Mine runs at 65 c, at 5.8 with cores loaded - nowhere near throttling temps. Obviously, if you fire up Cinebench etc. it’ll be a different story.

Ok, that's a fair point, as we don't really care about bench temps we care about flight sim temps here.

You might want to do a little deep-dive research on the Zotac Trinity OC...I had one briefly until I read that its power delivery is pretty limited.  I ended up returning it and swapping it out for a more pricey ASUS version.

Hello,

 

I am really very sorry for replying to your suggestions very late as my grandmother passed way last friday.

 

Going through various forums and suggestions in this topic,

I have decided to wait for 1 more month as 7950x3d is scheduled to be launched on 28th February.

Let see how it outperforms i9 13900K in MSFS.

 

Thank you.