June 10, 20232 yr What's in the Windows event viewer? That might give an indication of whether it's a video subsystem issue or something else. In other sims, a crash that seems to be regional in origin but does not occur in the same place is often attributable to a bad AI aircraft (usually a corrupt texture) that appears in that region. Could be server-side issues as well... Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
June 10, 20232 yr Author 33 minutes ago, Bob Scott said: What's in the Windows event viewer? That might give an indication of whether it's a video subsystem issue or something else. Spoiler This appears to be from the first crash: Faulting application name: FlightSimulator.exe, version: 1.32.7.0, time stamp: 0x00000000 Faulting module name: FlightSimulator.exe, version: 1.32.7.0, time stamp: 0x00000000 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x00000000007a4509 Faulting process id: 0x0x51B4 Faulting application start time: 0x0x1D99B016E46C925 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.32.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.32.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe Report Id: 80c414ed-6785-4563-b321-5de53a56622a Faulting package full name: Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.32.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe Faulting package-relative application ID: App Second Crash: Faulting application name: FlightSimulator.exe, version: 1.32.7.0, time stamp: 0x00000000 Faulting module name: FlightSimulator.exe, version: 1.32.7.0, time stamp: 0x00000000 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x00000000053367a7 Faulting process id: 0x0x37E8 Faulting application start time: 0x0x1D99B0BAFBB059D Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.32.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.32.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe Report Id: 0984f99c-8efb-4900-b3bc-2d00270ae13a Faulting package full name: Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.32.7.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe Faulting package-relative application ID: App See the spoiler window Edited June 10, 20232 yr by fppilot Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
June 10, 20232 yr Windows: the event viewer is mostly useless for this simulator and everything is pretty generic as "faults" go. Again, I would use the famous addon linker and use it's built-in programs to detect scenery conflicts. It will automatically rename them. It sounds like SamScene's scenery is conflicting with something else as it unloads from the area (as you're leaving it) is my guess. I had a very similar issue. Anywhere from New York and headed in any direction. Dulles, Midway, Omaha etc etc etc.I used the addon linker built in apps and I am now able to fly anywhere. It was very annoying until I got it fixed. It's not snake oil or garbage advice as with some of the stuff on the internet. I won't say any names. The others giving advice on other 3 party programs is a good idea as well. Edited June 10, 20232 yr by Sonosusto 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
June 10, 20232 yr CTDs have been happening to me since last Christmas in probably 9/10 times. I have done multiple removals and reinstalls with and without adding to the community folder. It has got to the point that I have parked msfs2020. That said in the next 2/3 weeks i will be updating my machine (cpu, mb etc) and a fresh install of windows. It will be interesting to see if the problem remains. One thing is for certain and that is XP11 & 12, P3dV3 continue to run like a swiss watch.
June 10, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, dbw1 said: CTDs have been happening to me since last Christmas in probably 9/10 times. I have done multiple removals and reinstalls with and without adding to the community folder. It has got to the point that I have parked msfs2020. That said in the next 2/3 weeks i will be updating my machine (cpu, mb etc) and a fresh install of windows. It will be interesting to see if the problem remains. One thing is for certain and that is XP11 & 12, P3dV3 continue to run like a swiss watch. I would actually really like to help you solve this. The overwhelming majority of CTD's for this simulator are addons (of any kind conflicting with another) and settings in sim, MS or Nvidia. Edited June 10, 20232 yr by Sonosusto 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
June 10, 20232 yr Just now, Sonosusto said: I would actually really like to help you solve this. Greetings from Winnipeg, Thank you for your kind offer. Would in 2-3 weeks when I have a fresh windows install and fresh M.2 drives etc work for you? The tech who for the last 10 years at my local computer store who is also a gamer and is incredibly sharp is on paternity leave and will return to work shortly. After trouble shooting to the best of my ability, I'm not the sharpest when if comes to computers, i have been wondering if there is something in my 5 year old Windows10 install (but faithfully updated) that msfs2020 has decided to take issue with. Take care. Dave
June 10, 20232 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: I would actually really like to help you solve this. Okay. Found and watched this video:https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/fixed-ctd-exception-code-0xc0000005-crash-to-desktop/266671 I realize I made a recent change to AI Traffic. Found and watched this video and that seems in context to what I experienced yesterday. So my first step is to address what I changed, though I made no notes about the change. Or simply turn AI traffic off. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
June 10, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, dbw1 said: Greetings from Winnipeg, Thank you for your kind offer. Would in 2-3 weeks when I have a fresh windows install and fresh M.2 drives etc work for you? The tech who for the last 10 years at my local computer store who is also a gamer and is incredibly sharp is on paternity leave and will return to work shortly. After trouble shooting to the best of my ability, I'm not the sharpest when if comes to computers, i have been wondering if there is something in my 5 year old Windows10 install (but faithfully updated) that msfs2020 has decided to take issue with. Take care. Dave I would bet that little to none of your issues have to do with an MSFS or Windows installation. I can help you then as well. It wouldn't hurt to install it now and you can PM me or something. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
June 10, 20232 yr Author Just now, Sonosusto said: I would bet that little to none of your issues have to do with an MSFS or Windows installation. I can help you then as well. It wouldn't hurt to install it now and you can PM me or something. Are you responding to me? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
June 10, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, fppilot said: Okay. Found and watched this video:https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/fixed-ctd-exception-code-0xc0000005-crash-to-desktop/266671 I realize I made a recent change to AI Traffic. Found and watched this video and that seems in context to what I experienced yesterday. So my first step is to address what I changed, though I made no notes about the change. Or simply turn AI traffic off. I think some of that could have been relevant 3 years ago but that exception code is mostly related to addons from my experience. Again, I will reiterate to use the addon linker tools and it will help rename those files. No need to delete scenery, change settings, reinstall anything or setting your traffic to 0. It likely has little to nothing to do with your issues. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
June 10, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, fppilot said: Are you responding to me? Both of you. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
June 10, 20232 yr Author 4 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: Again, I will reiterate to use the addon linker tools Are you referring to Addons Linker "addons checker"? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
June 10, 20232 yr 32 minutes ago, Sonosusto said: Windows: the event viewer is mostly useless for this simulator and everything is pretty generic as "faults" go. I disagree--in this example, the faults are not coming from an nvidia or AMD driver dll, which is an important datapoint when trying to determine if there's a GPU/driver-related problem or something else. The C0000005 fault is a fairly common memory protection error. As Frank has already alluded, it's good to start with that which has changed recently and either undo those changes or disable the potentially offending add-on(s) to try and isolate the problem. And from there, it's the age-old drill of isolating add-ons to try and establish a link between the problem and a particular add-on. Unfortunately, given that no two MSFS sessions are the same due to the vagaries of its server-client architecture, the problem could well be a transitory server-related issue. So if a problem add-on does emerge as an apparent cause, it's prudent to re-enable it again and see if a repeat occurs. It takes multiple hits to reach a reasonably solid conclusion when you can't establish a control case by reproducing a scenario where the error occurs. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
June 10, 20232 yr Just to remember to those using the Rolling Cache, it's a good practice to re-generate it after each SU (and WUs too, if you fly frequently over the region that's being updated). Regenerating the RC solved a CTD issue I had at every flight over the NYC/New Jersey area (with the Longitude in my case) after SU11. Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
June 10, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Bob Scott said: I disagree--in this example, the faults are not coming from an nvidia or AMD driver dll, which is an important datapoint when trying to determine if there's a GPU/driver-related problem or something else. The C0000005 fault is a fairly common memory protection error. As Frank has already alluded, it's good to start with that which has changed recently and either undo those changes or disable the potentially offending add-on(s) to try and isolate the problem. Unfortunately, given that no two MSFS sessions are the same due to the vagaries of its server-client architecture, the problem could well be a transitory server-related issue. So if a problem does emerge as an apparent cause, it's prudent to re-enable it again and see if a repeat occurs. It takes multiple hits to reach a reasonably solid conclusion when you can't establish a control case by reproducing a scenario where the error occurs. You make a good argument but for me, I suffered from a lot...a lot of....insufferable CTD's and none of them had anything to do with memory faults. At least for me. I am not a computer expert by any means and the fault/exception codes did not help me, personally. I guess the scenery conflicts can mess a lot of things up. Hence me keep mentioning the addon linker tools. They really helped me solve this issue. Edited June 10, 20232 yr by Sonosusto 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
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