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Anybody have any Gsync ultimate advice?

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I think in the next few months I will finally retire my 43" samsung 4k HDR tv and replace with a monitor.  The big problem is it will be hard to find something that checks all the boxes.  

-Considering downgrading from 4k to either 1440P or a widescreen.  That opens up more doors but will also create more criteria to judge.  Widescreen vs 16:9 for example.  

-Not interested in a curved display. 

-Main reason for my switch is to get full use out of my 4090.  So that's why I am leaning to gsync ultimate.  Or gsync.  But not really interested in just gsync compatible.  

-Obviously I'm focused on having a good VRR refresh rate range.  I'm more interested in the low end of the range.  So I need it to go down to a very low frame number, but don't really play any FPS games where I'm super concerned about 240hz for example.  

-Since I've gotten used to a bigger display at 43", I don't see myself wanting to go much lower than 31-35.  

 

Anybody have any advice in this class?  I'm really looking to maximize frame generation in msfs.  

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

Your search criteria is nearly an empty set...only thing I see out there is the 32" ASUS PG32UQX (4K), on sale now at the ASUS site for a whopping $2000.

There are a couple 21:9 curved ultrawide options like the Alienware AW3423UW (34" 3440 x 1440) and AW3821WW (38" 3840 x 1600), which are both curved G-Sync Ultimate monitors.  Not sure that Ultimate does much for simming, as I believe that frame generation does not work with HDR10, which seems to be the real advantage of Ultimate.  Anyway, they both cost around half of the aforementioned ASUS 4K display.

I have a two year old AW3420DW (34" 3440 x 1440 curved-screen G-Sync) on my MSFS/XPlane box, and it's a solid performer with an 4090FE. 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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5 hours ago, somiller said:

According to the nvidia G-Sync monitor list at https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/  this 2021 C1 4K series TV is G-Sync compatible (as opposed to having true hardware G-Sync capability).

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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11 hours ago, Bob Scott said:

Your search criteria is nearly an empty set...only thing I see out there is the 32" ASUS PG32UQX (4K), on sale now at the ASUS site for a whopping $2000.

There are a couple 21:9 curved ultrawide options like the Alienware AW3423UW (34" 3440 x 1440) and AW3821WW (38" 3840 x 1600), which are both curved G-Sync Ultimate monitors.  Not sure that Ultimate does much for simming, as I believe that frame generation does not work with HDR10, which seems to be the real advantage of Ultimate.  Anyway, they both cost around half of the aforementioned ASUS 4K display.

I have a two year old AW3420DW (34" 3440 x 1440 curved-screen G-Sync) on my MSFS/XPlane box, and it's a solid performer with an 4090FE. 

thanks for the reply guys.  Just circling back to this thread since I first posted.  I think I also came to the conclusion that  Gsync Ultimate isn't necessary for me.  So now channeling my search to gsync and excluding ultimate and compatible from search.  Bob quick question.  Do you find the curved screen plays nicely with virtual cockpits?  I had a preconceived notion that it would distort the VC.  But perhaps that's not true at all.  Also how is widescreen in your opinion?

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

7 hours ago, Bob Scott said:

According to the nvidia G-Sync monitor list at https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/  this 2021 C1 4K series TV is G-Sync compatible (as opposed to having true hardware G-Sync capability).

Indeed, not sure how I missed that - maybe because it looked so good I wanted it to be hardware Gsync. It appears LG doesn't have any 4K Gsync or Ultimate monitors/tv's. Shame because one of those 4K OLED's would look spectacular.

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5 hours ago, micstatic said:

thanks for the reply guys.  Just circling back to this thread since I first posted.  I think I also came to the conclusion that  Gsync Ultimate isn't necessary for me.  So now channeling my search to gsync and excluding ultimate and compatible from search.  Bob quick question.  Do you find the curved screen plays nicely with virtual cockpits?  I had a preconceived notion that it would distort the VC.  But perhaps that's not true at all.  Also how is widescreen in your opinion?

When sitting in front of the curved display, the curve is not really noticeable...no perception of distortion due to the curve.  Works just fine with VCs. 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

1 hour ago, somiller said:

Indeed, not sure how I missed that - maybe because it looked so good I wanted it to be hardware Gsync. It appears LG doesn't have any 4K Gsync or Ultimate monitors/tv's. Shame because one of those 4K OLED's would look spectacular.

Yeah, I wish I could find a large-format G-Sync display.  Biggest I see anywhere now is 32"...I'd love to find something like the 55" TV I use on my P3D machine, but with a G-Sync module in it.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Here's an interesting list showing min and max VRR range for compatibles, along with whether they are Nvidia certified.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/motion/refresh-rate

The min refresh rate for most is <20 Hz which should be more than adequate for MSFS if you've got a strong CPU and Nvidia GPU.

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On 9/1/2023 at 10:58 PM, Bob Scott said:

According to the nvidia G-Sync monitor list at https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/  this 2021 C1 4K series TV is G-Sync compatible (as opposed to having true hardware G-Sync capability).

I’m not sure that matters much. RTings tested it and the C1 is good for G-Sync below 20FPS. God forbid anyone has FPS that low 🙂

I have a C1 as my primary monitor (but I’m driving it with a 4090) and it’s been fantastic. Amazing color, contrast, and g-sync performance. 

A bigger issue with high refresh rate OLEDs is a bit of OLED flicker in dark (night flying) scenes at low FPS. It relates to the charge duration of OLED pixels. But if you can keep the FPS up this won’t be an issue… and if you have a 4xxx series card with frame gen, this certainly won’t be an issue. 

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Guys I ended up ordering the AW3821DW.  Be a about a week. Thanks for the posts on this thread.  

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093T2NSD4?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

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22 hours ago, spearmint_flyer said:

This is what I told my wife to put in my Christmas list. 
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824281222?Item=N82E16824281222

ALL DAY LONG - this looks really good!! Does your wife have money for two of them...I'll PM my address for shipping.

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All set up guys. Love it. Ultra smooth. 

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

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