November 9, 20232 yr Well... somebody's gotta be in trouble over this, right? https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/titan-a321neo-lost-windows-in-flight-after-thermal-damage-from-high-power-floodlights/155663.article Excerpt: Quote Investigators believe intense heat from film floodlights concentrated on the exterior of an Airbus A321neo caused the aircraft’s windows to suffer thermal damage, before a number of window panes fell from the jet during a flight from London Stansted. The Titan Airways aircraft had been conducting a positioning service to Orlando on 4 October, ahead of a multi-day charter operation. Nine passengers were accompanying the aircraft which also had 11 crew members. As the A321neo climbed off runway 22 the passengers – seated in the forward cabin – felt that the interior was colder and noisier than it ought to be. When the aircraft reached 10,000ft and the seat-belt sign was switched off, the loadmaster went to checked the noise – which he described as particularly loud. In the vicinity of the overwing exits he noticed a dislodged window pane, and informed the cabin crew and pilots. Edited November 9, 20232 yr by HiFlyer We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
November 9, 20232 yr I'm guessing that checking the cabin windows is not on the checklist for crew preflight walkaround.
November 9, 20232 yr It didn’t take off with missing windows - they came off after takeoff when the plane started pressurizing. The thermal damage the windows suffered when the aircraft was used for shooting a movie a few days before may not have obvious without removing the cabin sidewall. Not the sort of thing the crew would have spotted in a preflight walk around. A GIV belonging to my previous employer was used to film some ground based cabin scenes in 2009 for the Brendan Fraser movie “Furry Vengence”. The filming took place at the airport in Beverly MA (KBVY). They also had the plane lit up from the outside, but as I recall the lights were not too close. No obvious damage to the fuselage or windows that I am aware of, but now I wonder if there might have.been hidden damage. The windows never fell out in any subsequent flights! I accompanied the plane to manage ground power during the filming. I got to watch Brendan Fraser and Ken Jeong “up close and personal”. Unfortunately, the person I really wanted to meet, (Brooke Shields), wasn’t involved in any of the scenes shot at the airport. 😢 The movie tanked at the box office when it was released… Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
November 9, 20232 yr "the loadmaster went to checked the noise" Didn't realise commercial aircraft needed a load master. I am aware that military aircraft use them though. Neil Ward CPU Intel Core i7 [email protected] with FrostFlow 240L Liquid Cooling, M/B ROG STRIX X299-E-GAMING, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, RAM G.Skill 32GB DDR4 Ripjaws Blue,
November 10, 20232 yr A few more details and photos below. Quote During said photoshoot, the airline had reportedly used intense 12,000-watt stage lighting to simulate a sunrise. For up to five and a half hours, three of the windows were exposed to this intense light, and may have reached temperatures approaching 400 degrees Fahrenheit. This warped the acrylic windowpanes and melted their foam insulation, allowing them to fall out in flight and damage the left-side horizontal stabilizer as they passed. https://www.thedrive.com/news/passenger-flight-takes-off-missing-two-windows-no-one-notices-until-10000-feet
November 10, 20232 yr On 11/9/2023 at 12:07 AM, Freo said: "the loadmaster went to checked the noise" Didn't realise commercial aircraft needed a load master. I am aware that military aircraft use them though. Given the generous proportions of many of us Americans, a loadmaster might be an appropriate crewman on an airliner. 😂 My computer: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC featuring an Intel 10700F CPU, EVGA CLC-240 AIO cooler (dead fans replaced with Noctua fans), Asus Tuf Gaming B460M Plus motherboard, 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM, 1 TB NVMe SSD, EVGA RTX3070 FTW3 video card, dead EVGA 750 watt power supply replaced with Antec 900 watt PSU.
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