FSLTL has become a bit of a mess

[neumanix 114]

1 hour ago, mobeans10 said:

I would imagine aiground and aiflow should help mitigate these issues ?

Doesn't help much. You can tweak some parameters to adjust things somewhat.

It all boils down to the horrible native AI code from MS/Asobo. All FSLTL does is inject the aircraft, then the default AI traffic handling takes over.

BeyondATC promises to fix all this as far as I've understood, and from the videos I've seen it looks very promising.

Edited December 23, 2023 by neumanix

[DModjo 122]

I've not noticed any issues however I'm using FSLTL with FS Traffic pack.

[Dave_YVR 973]

That's why I use PSXT. It has it's faults, but they are nothing compared to any of the other options we have available. Real separation, and the correct runways in use with no go arounds unless the flight was pulled up in real life.

[Drumcode 1,893]

1 hour ago, Dave_YVR said:

That's why I use PSXT. It has it's faults, but they are nothing compared to any of the other options we have available. Real separation, and the correct runways in use with no go arounds unless the flight was pulled up in real life.

so as the traffic is really turned on off in the sim, PSXT’s traffic doesn’t really talk to the MSFS ATC? Like when you go fly, you can see the traffic but the ATC only communicates with your aircraft and the rest just moves around the airport in silence?

[Dave_YVR 973]

2 hours ago, Drumcode said:

so as the traffic is really turned on off in the sim, PSXT’s traffic doesn’t really talk to the MSFS ATC? Like when you go fly, you can see the traffic but the ATC only communicates with your aircraft and the rest just moves around the airport in silence?

Use LiveATC and it's much more accurate. The ATC in MSFS and I'm sure with even the upcoming BeyondATC wouldn't be able to keep up to how it's being really being done. You make your own holes for departure and arrival, AI is for the eye candy.

[Tuskin38 6,527]

LiveATC is too robotic, plus the monthly cost us a huge turn off. 
they don’t use the default ATC

PSXT is just for eye candy 

Edited December 24, 2023 by Tuskin38

[MrFuzzy 2,118]

Double post

Edited December 24, 2023 by MrFuzzy

[MrFuzzy 2,118]

7 hours ago, scotchegg said:

How do you do that?

You can just avoid starting FSLTL injector and use MSFS live traffic. You will have the default live traffic with FSLTL liveries (and some white liveries, however even with FSLTL injector and the right parameter to avoid that, you get white liveries lately...)

The liveries are in the fsltl-traffic-base folder in your community folder and they are always used, even when the injector is not running.

[aniiran 431]

Is anyone having an issue where FSLTL is calling some airlines but not others.  I keep hearing Boeing 220 do this, Delta 562 do this Airbus 3312 do this, Embraer, 123 do that. American 1328... okay... strange.  I'm really noticing it in Japan and Korea.  Not sure what is going on.  Saw an Asiana 772 and the sim and ATC said Boeing Hotel-Lima 6721 heavy cleared for take off.  Like it's not reading the right line.  I went into the FSLTL sim objects folder and the all of the aircraft.cfgs look correct. 

[BuboBubo 35]

Airplanes lining up but not taking off is likely a problem with the sceneey, like a missing holding point. 

FSLTL only injects/removes traffic (based on your citerias) and once injected traffic is handled by MSFS traffic engine.

[KL Oo 700]

4 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Use LiveATC and it's much more accurate. The ATC in MSFS and I'm sure with even the upcoming BeyondATC wouldn't be able to keep up to how it's being really being done. You make your own holes for departure and arrival, AI is for the eye candy.

How are you using LiveATC Dave? Is there a way to automate it (i.e. tune to the frequency Pilot2ATC or MSFS ATC is one)? Or do you just have some random stuff running as background noise?

[Lange_666 167]

13 hours ago, BWBriscoe said:

I only use FSLTL for traffic, but recently I've had the following issues:
- traffic lining up on the runway, cleared for takeoff, then taxi off the runway (on taxiways), taxi through all the other aircraft waiting for departure (including mine), taxi back on to the runway and takeoff (this happened at EGLL and OMDB).
- traffic going literally mad at high capacity airports. For example at EGLL, looking up and aircraft are literally flying all over the place, buzzing terminals, flying really low over the ground etc
- traffic coming in to land and then instead of touching down, hovering above the runway at about 100ft at what I would consider to be taxi speed
- aircraft landing in all random directions, despite the winds being very clear what runway should be in use
- traffic taxiing at really high speeds off runways, going through buildings etc.
- traffic not being able to land at EGLL iniBuilds on a return leg

I don't think this is really an FSLTL problem but an MSFS problem because i've seen most of these FU's also without FSLTL running.
Being such an immersion killer i completely stopped flying from and to bigger airports until it's addressed. Maybe MSFS 2024?

[Dave_YVR 973]

8 hours ago, KL Oo said:

How are you using LiveATC Dave?

I don't use it myself, but I have seen a few videos where its used and the pilot flying uses the instructions to the correct flight number that he is operating as. 

[Mike S KPDX 597]

At no point are any of the items listed in the original post controlled by FSLTL.  Please read their FAQ.  You are complaining about the base sim and/or modified airports poor ground pathing.

[steve 86 287]

Theres a problem with inibulds egll 09l  still aint fixed where the ai will taxi to runway but will join using taxi way A12 they will then go onto the grass turn around and take off, its been reported months ago but still aint fixed