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Swapper Update "Huge FPS Increase" (sic!)

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DLSS Swapper Updated. Fix Ghosting (?)

I didn't know this before. Hopefully not another snake oil FPS booster. Has anyone tried it?

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Yes, unfortunately, for me, it’s snake oil - at least partially against those claims.

 

With my EVGA RTX 3080 (10 GB), it induced more stutters, slightly more VRAM usage, and ghosting is still definitely present if I try to use it.  I removed it and switched back to TAA with the frame gen mod for now.

 

Hope it works for others, though.  Ghosting is definitely one of my biggest pet peeves of the sim.

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I can see no noticeable difference, and in fact, quite a few see no significant difference.  It is certainly no worse though. 

The ghosting is the same, and the consensus between Nvidia and Asobo is that it is up to Asobo to mask the flat screens off from DLSS, so I can't see how any new Nvidia driver or DLSS increment can make it better. 

I would just say use caution about the claims, because of this comment the YouTuber made...

"NOTE: This works even if you use TAA, that's what I use. I can't explain why, but it does."

The statement above is pure nonsense of course because TAA obviously does NOT use DLSS. 
Therefore, it points to some other change that he made that has resulted in increased performance across the board, not the DLSS swap, and that is what he is seeing.

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2 hours ago, History said:

DLSS Swapper Updated. Fix Ghosting (?)

I didn't know this before. Hopefully not another snake oil FPS booster. Has anyone tried it?

You should definitely update your DLSS file. The swapper makes it very easy.

Edited by mryan75

2 hours ago, CaptKornDog said:

Yes, unfortunately, for me, it’s snake oil - at least partially against those claims.

 

With my EVGA RTX 3080 (10 GB), it induced more stutters, slightly more VRAM usage, and ghosting is still definitely present if I try to use it.  I removed it and switched back to TAA with the frame gen mod for now.

 

Hope it works for others, though.  Ghosting is definitely one of my biggest pet peeves of the sim.

Did you try DLSS-DLAA?

Just tried the new updated DLSS, using Swapper.   Definitely does not fix ghosting.  Perhaps on the video he wasn't flying with a plane with a G1000, GTN750 or GNS.   Because the ghosting is still extremely poor on those units, with the latest DLSS.

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Which of the countless versions do I choose? I mean automatically the last / most recent? Or why should I take v1.x if there is a v3.x?

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1 hour ago, DAD said:

Which of the countless versions do I choose? I mean automatically the last / most recent? Or why should I take v1.x if there is a v3.x?

3.5.10.0 seems to be the latest and greatest and the one recommended in the OP video.

1 minute ago, Vel said:

3.5.10.0 seems to be the latest and greatest and the one recommended in the OP video.

Thanks. And in case I want to roll back, which version would that be?

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Could it be that if you do a new install on MSFS that you automatically  get the 3.5 version??

I recently had a new PC and I cant remember that I changed the old version for a the new one after I freshly installed MSFS

 

(I have the 3.5 in MSFS)

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I love how the more things change, the more they stay the same.

This reminds me of "the blurries" on FSX, and tweaks like adjusting "FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION" in the config file. 

Post Subject: "Blurries are gone! Try this one neat trick"

Not being sarcastic either - I really do love little tweaks like this, even though 90% of time they are disappointing, there's always that glimmer of hope for the holy grail of smoothness...

2 hours ago, DAD said:

Thanks. And in case I want to roll back, which version would that be?

The latest one is 3.5.10. A few people have had the jiggles with that one and have had success with 3.5.0. When you load the program it will show you which one is currently installed, for MSFS I think it's somewhere around 2.4. Just note it down and if you need to you can use DLSS Swapper to just revert back to whichever one you had.

2 hours ago, DAD said:

Thanks. And in case I want to roll back, which version would that be?

Aha! Now there is a good question!

I think you would need to take a note of the version you were on before you swapped in the newer one you wish to try. That way you can then swap back to that version if things are not to your liking. There is no way that I know of to automatically regress to your previous version.

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This post that I started was meant for getting facts verified by peer testings (obviously by experienced and veteran simmers in AVSIM), in this case, the DLSS Swapper. As long as it is empirically proven that it actually improves performance, I am happy and grateful, thus I am not interested in any of the ad hominem arguments related to whatever happens "behind the scene". I appreciate what you have done to this community through your observations and testings in your videos. Cheers mate.

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12 hours ago, mryan75 said:

Did you try DLSS-DLAA?

Yes.

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